GTS Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I’m interested in this C. blumenbachii “Dudley Bug” which is ex John Page Collection, collected from the Wenlock Limestone Formation, Wrens Nest, Dudley. Most fossils from Wrens Nest tend to have a dark grey appearance rather than the honey coloured patina seen here. Has anyone seen specimens with this honey patina from Wrens Nest before? I’m told that this patina has arisen from years of exposure to air and handling. Re John Page - I’m told that Page was a trilobite collector who specialised in trilobites from Wrens Nest. Can anyone provide any more info about Page or point me in the direction of any further sources of info (a Google search didn’t seem to provide much info). Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I have seen specimens with this patina from the Wenlock in books. I have a book I bought years ago with a photo of a specimen just like this. I think the book is Fossils in Colour by J. Kirkaldy. So yes this specimen does look like Dudley bug from the famous locality. I think specimens of this quality were collected in the Victorian era and early 20th century. Hope this helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, Advantage said: I have seen specimens with this patina from the Wenlock in books. I have a book I bought years ago with a photo of a specimen just like this. I think the book is Fossils in Colour by J. Kirkaldy. So yes this specimen does look like Dudley bug from the famous locality. I think specimens of this quality were collected in the Victorian era and early 20th century. Hope this helps. great thankyou! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, Advantage said: I have seen specimens with this patina from the Wenlock in books. I have a book I bought years ago with a photo of a specimen just like this. I think the book is Fossils in Colour by J. Kirkaldy. So yes this specimen does look like Dudley bug from the famous locality. I think specimens of this quality were collected in the Victorian era and early 20th century. Hope this helps. Any chance that you could take pic of the photo in book and post here for me please, or private message me. Thankyou! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Yes no problem, the book is upstairs on my book shelves. I will send a picture tomorrow sometime. I will pm you. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Advantage said: Yes no problem, the book is upstairs on my book shelves. I will send a picture tomorrow sometime. I will pm you. Steve Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Advantage said: Yes no problem, the book is upstairs on my book shelves. I will send a picture tomorrow sometime. I will pm you. Steve Why not share this photo with everyone ? Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) Calymenid trilobites from the Wenlock Series (Silurian) of Britain Derek J. Siveter Earth and Environmental Science Transactions of The Royal Society of Edinburgh , Volume 86 , Issue 4 , 1995 , pp. 257 - 285,might be a good source,at least for taxonomic purposes ? Nowhere in Siveter's text are there references to the individual you mentioned "Page" is a difficultname to google,methinks Edited March 12, 2023 by doushantuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Hi Coco, I`m happy to share the photo with everyone. I use a chrome book and am having trouble loading photos recently. Thats why i haven't [posted anything. My chromebook doesn't seem to recognise the photos I try to load from my iphone. I would to share some of my collection here.. Best Wishes Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doushantuo Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) e.g.: Derek Siveter the type specimen of Calymene form the Silurian of Dudley,England palaeontology,vol.28,n3 /1985 part173766.pdf Size: about 6,40Mb Edited March 12, 2023 by doushantuo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Struggling to find the picture, its not on the book I mentioned, apologies GTS. Here is a photo from another book I have but the patina is darker than your specimen. I have so much literature its difficult to think where the picture I mentioned is. Wrens Nest Calymene, Wenlock UK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) To put your photos here, first they must be in JPG format. Then you open two windows : one for TFF and another to get your photos, this last window you open in small size. Then, when on TFF you are on your post, you pop up your 2nd window (small) and drag your photos to the location of the TFF post. Easy and fast. Coco Edited March 12, 2023 by Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Advantage said: Struggling to find the picture, its not on the book I mentioned, apologies GTS. Here is a photo from another book I have but the patina is darker than your specimen. I have so much literature its difficult to think where the picture I mentioned is. Wrens Nest Calymene, Wenlock UK 7.24 MB · 0 downloads Thankyou - doesn’t seem to download for me though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 hours ago, doushantuo said: Calymenid trilobites from the Wenlock Series (Silurian) of Britain Derek J. Siveter Earth and Environmental Science Transactions of The Royal Society of Edinburgh , Volume 86 , Issue 4 , 1995 , pp. 257 - 285,might be a good source,at least for taxonomic purposes ? Nowhere in Siveter's text are there references to the individual you mentioned "Page" is a difficultname to google,methinks I have that paper thankyou. John Page was a private collector I believe and so won’t have been referenced in Siveter’s paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Advantage said: Struggling to find the picture, its not on the book I mentioned, apologies GTS. Here is a photo from another book I have but the patina is darker than your specimen. I have so much literature its difficult to think where the picture I mentioned is. Wrens Nest Calymene, Wenlock UK 7.24 MB · 0 downloads @Advantage perhaps take a photo using iPhone / iPad and then upload to here or email me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Here you go: Lawrence, P., Stammers, S. 2014 Trilobites of the World: An Atlas of 1000 Photographs. Siri Scientific Press, 416 pp. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advantage Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 55 minutes ago, piranha said: Here you go: Lawrence, P., Stammers, S. 2014 Trilobites of the World: An Atlas of 1000 Photographs. Siri Scientific Press, 416 pp. Ah yes Pete Lawrence I met him when I was 17, he came to our local museum to give a talk about his adventures collecting Trilobites around the world. That was about 1983! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, Advantage said: Ah yes Pete Lawrence I met him when I was 17, he came to our local museum to give a talk about his adventures collecting Trilobites around the world. That was about 1983! Thankyou - just seen this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, piranha said: Here you go: Lawrence, P., Stammers, S. 2014 Trilobites of the World: An Atlas of 1000 Photographs. Siri Scientific Press, 416 pp. Thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTS Posted April 21, 2023 Author Share Posted April 21, 2023 (edited) On 3/12/2023 at 7:10 PM, piranha said: Here you go: Lawrence, P., Stammers, S. 2014 Trilobites of the World: An Atlas of 1000 Photographs. Siri Scientific Press, 416 pp. @Bobby Rico see this Victorian specimen which exhibits similar patina to mine. Edited April 21, 2023 by GTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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