ID Help Peace River FL

[PODIGGER]

Back out Tuesday for a nice day on the Peace River. Found the river running a little faster and deeper than the previous week.  It was also very cloudy and had a greenish look to it. I went to a spot I had tried last year on my last visit for the season, when the river was running so fast it was sweeping just about everything right off the shovel as I tried to bring it up.  Today was better and I found plenty of nice shark teeth (no megs), an armadillo scute, set of camelid teeth, gator teeth, a very small phalange, and the partial tooth I am asking for help with here. When I first pulled it from the sifter I thought partial whale tooth.  I shortly decided this was not the case and researching further came to the conclusion it may be a partial Equus canine.  Went in this direction after comparing it to a camelid canine @Harry Pristis, @Shellseekerand @Meganeura helped me with recently.  This one has a thicker and rounder look to it.  I found a similar looking tooth on a commercial website ID'd as a horse canine and thought it looked like a match.  Opinion on ID would be appreciated.

Here is the the specimen I found:

Measurements -

40mm x 12mm x 9mm

               or

1 1/2" x 1/2" x 3/8"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is the picture I found that I thought may be a match:

 

 

[Meganeura]

1 hour ago, PODIGGER said:

Back out Tuesday for a nice day on the Peace River. Found the river running a little faster and deeper than the previous week.  It was also very cloudy and had a greenish look to it. I went to a spot I had tried last year on my last visit for the season, when the river was running so fast it was sweeping just about everything right off the shovel as I tried to bring it up.  Today was better and I found plenty of nice shark teeth (no megs), an armadillo scute, set of camelid teeth, gator teeth, a very small phalange, and the partial tooth I am asking for help with here. When I first pulled it from the sifter I thought partial whale tooth.  I shortly decided this was not the case and researching further came to the conclusion it may be a partial Equus canine.  Went in this direction after comparing it to a camelid canine @Harry Pristis, @Shellseekerand @Meganeura helped me with recently.  This one has a thicker and rounder look to it.  I found a similar looking tooth on a commercial website ID'd as a horse canine and thought it looked like a match.  Opinion on ID would be appreciated.

Here is the the specimen I found:

Measurements -

40mm x 12mm x 9mm

               or

1 1/2" x 1/2" x 3/8"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here is the picture I found that I thought may be a match:

 

 

I’m not so good at just roots, so I won’t be of much help here unfortunately. 

[PODIGGER]

Thanks for the feedback.

[Shellseeker]

Take a look at Tapir tusk (Canine??).... Harry has a great photo and may confirm.  I found a Tapir canine 10 years back.  

 

 

 

Distant 2nd choice wolf tooth of horse or camel...

[Meganeura]

13 minutes ago, Shellseeker said:

Take a look at Tapir tusk (Canine??).... Harry has a great photo and may confirm.  I found a Tapir canine 10 years back.  

 

 

 

Distant 2nd choice wolf tooth of horse or camel...

I'd agree with this! Horse canines are thinner I believe.

[PODIGGER]

Thanks Jack - Tapir certainly would make my day! I do see that as a reasonable possibility.  I'll wait and see if Harry offers his opinion.

[jcbshark]

I’m thinking mammoth root maybe

[digit]

6 minutes ago, jcbshark said:

I’m thinking mammoth root maybe

I'm of the same opinion.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

[PODIGGER]

I have quite a few mammoth roots and have not found any this "robust" or with that type of tip on the end,

[Meganeura]

1 hour ago, digit said:

I'm of the same opinion.

 

 

Cheers.

 

-Ken

I’m not sold, I don’t see the same layers. I do see the enamel in the root but I feel like it’s too thick personally. The enamel bands that is.

[Harry Pristis]

I agree with Jack . . . best guess is tapir canine.

 

[PODIGGER]

Thanks for the ID and photo plate Harry. I have quite a few tapir uppers and lowers but a tapir canine is a first for my collection. With you and Jack on the same page I will put it in the tapir camp. Definitely a good day on the river!