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Jurassic/Cretaceous fossils? (sponge/bryozoan/crinoid)


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My better half has just rediscovered some of her old fossils from years ago - as such, she does not know the provenance, though based on the matrix and preservation, I believe them to be Cotswoldian in origin - Jurassic, Inferior/Greater Oolite. 

 

These two in particular absolutely had us stumped - 

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This is number one - I originally thought disarticulated crinoid, but the 'branching' pattern in picture 2 threw me off a lot, going to bryozoans and all sorts, bouncing around til' I decided, maybe, not a fossil? But then again, it displays the glow from calcite:

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And, secondly:

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The gap between the layers suggests to me that something dissolved - a shell?

 

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Any input appreciated!

 

Isaac

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The second one looks sponge like, to me.  Not sure on the first one at all. Bryozoan sounds reasonable, but I have no knowledge of this area.

 

Maybe @TqB  or @Tidgy's Dad will have some ideas?

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The second one is quite likely a sponge as flint and chert nodules from this area and age, especially if it's Cretaceous, are often formed around spomges and the look seems to fit the bill.

The first one I'm far less sure about. It's not a crinoid, maybe a coral? 

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I agree with @Tidgy's Dad that the second one is a sponge in Cretaceous flint, most likely from superficial gravel.

 

The first is puzzling. There's no coral internal structure visible. Possibly a sponge but I'm leaning toward weathered banded flint; the texture looks right. 

An image search will show good examples, some with the deeper ridging that makes them  especially confusing objects. :)

And from this forum: http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/76996-fossil-help/

Pieces like this may have originated in burrow systems in the chalk, so effectively a modified trace fossil.

 

 

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first one might be a tiny example of paramoudra(which is a qualified form of flint,BTW)

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30 minutes ago, doushantuo said:

first one might be a tiny example of paramoudra(which is a qualified form of flint,BTW)

 

I agree, type-B paramoudra.

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