Dino Dad 81 Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Hi all, Any thoughts on what this piece is from hell creek in Garfield, MO? It’s about 2.5” x 2”. thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatasaurus93 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) I'm leaning towards it being a ceratopsian epijugal because of how robust it is. I've seen similar pieces labeled as epoccipitals, but I'm not too sure I agree. Epoccipitals tend to be flatter than the piece in your post. Here's an epoccipital from my collection for comparison (sorry for the poor picture; it's the only picture I have of it on my computer at the moment): Lance Creek Formation, WY Some examples of epijugals: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232672895_Ontogeny_of_Cranial_Epi-Ossifications_in_Triceratops Your piece bears a closer resemblance to the specimens above. Edited May 11, 2023 by Meatasaurus93 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 I think epijugal is spot on. nice find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Not seeing epijugal, too fat and attachment point too smooth. Might be Ankylosaurid Closeup of this area 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dino Dad 81 Posted May 11, 2023 Author Share Posted May 11, 2023 (edited) Dang, someone sniped it. Thanks for the input though Edited May 11, 2023 by Dino Dad 81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatasaurus93 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Troodon said: Not seeing epijugal, too fat and attachment point too smooth. Might be Ankylosaurid Closeup of this area Do you have any pictures of epijugal attachment points just for reference/comparison? What should we be looking for? As I mentioned in my post, I've seen similar pieces to this one labeled as ceratopsian material. With that said, I never assume a seller's ID is correct and always double check on things. If there's a chance something like OP's specimen is ankylosaurid, I'd be interested in knowing a little more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatasaurus93 Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Dino Dad 81 said: Dang, someone sniped it. Thanks for the input though That's unfortunate. I do see similar pieces pop up on various fossil sites, so just keep an eye out and you might be able to pick up a different one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted May 11, 2023 Share Posted May 11, 2023 Really needed to have a better view of the surface to see if its Anky ( Fibrous) or Ceratopsian (Veining) The end just looked very smooth and not water worn. Epoccip Epijugal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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