Katy2319 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Hi all! I was recently visiting with another naturalist, helping them to identify some of the donated rocks and fossils in their collection. There were a few that stumped us both, and unfortunately they couldn't tell me where any of the specimens were originally found, or the period anything was from with any certainty. I'll make separate posts for the different pieces. But here's part one to start with. A partial jaw with large molars, certainly from a large herbivore. The other naturalist suggested perhaps from a moose, and I also found similarities in the shape to other cervids, so I think this is the right track, but I'm far from an expert, especially on teeth. the jaw measures 8" long, and 3-4" wide. I didn't think to measure individual teeth, but each is over an inch wide. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkspsa Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I'm not an expert on vertebrates but these appear to be rhino teeth. I suspect someone else on the forum can provide a species, given the quality. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 From appearance, I'd guess Subhyracodon. 3 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katy2319 Posted June 3, 2023 Author Share Posted June 3, 2023 Thank you so much! I honestly did consider a rhinoceros but wasn't confident enough to say it, so this is super cool! @Harry Pristis I'm wondering if you can point out any of the details that makes you think it's that particular species? I love any chance to learn from others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Subhyracodon: 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilhunter21 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Yep. Definitely Subhyracodon. Possibly Subhyracodon occidentalis. I would say definitely from the White River Formation. Very cool fossil. Cheers and Shalom, -Micah Edited June 3, 2023 by fossilhunter21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarethGP Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 100% subhyracodon, lovely specimen too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossillarry Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I believe that the maxilla fragment is from Trigonias osborni. I base this on my personal knowledge, I have collected in the White River Group in Eastern Wyoming for over 40 year, and I have a fairly good collection of badlands rhinos. In addition I checked the Prothro book on the evolution of North American rhinos and the W. B.. Scott book on White River perissodactyls and the illustrations and description confirm ( I believe) my ID. Base on the color of the teeth and bone I believe the fossil is from the Chadron Formation Late Eocene. The most common source of such fossils are the Big Badland of South Dakota or Sioux Co. Nebraska. Trigonias is somewhat larger than Subhyracodon and has a number of dental and skull differences that clearly differentiate the two genera. Subhyracodon does occur in the Late Chadronian but I do not think this specimen is that genus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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