Monkeyfuss Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Found in eastern NC. Anyone? "You should know by the kindness of a dog the way a human should be"-Don Van Vliet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nandomas Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 walrus? :o Erosion... will be my epitaph! http://www.paleonature.org/ https://fossilnews.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 walrus? :o ....I think so; is the only animal I can situated in the states (apart of the sperm whale) that have that incisives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Well, another one that I can think of, is an Entelodont; but this animals were not marine mammals... Cool find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickNC Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 No idea what it is, but I think it is cool that it was found in these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 For comparison: http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoRon Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Nice find. Walrus material is rare in N.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I don't see walrus here. It has a wear pattern almost like a boar tusk or even a giant beaver/ rodent tooth. What age are the deposits it was found in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyfuss Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 Found in what is historically a pliocene yorktown formation. However I have found horse, bison and mastodon teeth around the same area. None of which were dug but rather laying on sandbars or shallow runs. Here's a view from the base if it helps anymore to give the difinitive ID. "You should know by the kindness of a dog the way a human should be"-Don Van Vliet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyfuss Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 Yet another view... "You should know by the kindness of a dog the way a human should be"-Don Van Vliet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) Whatever it is, it's delaminating like a walrus tusk. Is that really a wear facet on the distal end, or is it merely a shear face? "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, 1859-1930) Edited July 27, 2010 by Harry Pristis http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyfuss Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 Whatever it is, it's delaminating like a walrus tusk. Is that really a wear facet on the distal end, or is it merely a shear face? Harry, the distal end is pretty abrasive like it's was wearing against an opposing tooth/tusk. ????? "You should know by the kindness of a dog the way a human should be"-Don Van Vliet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nandomas Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 (edited) I don't see walrus here. It has a wear pattern almost like a boar tusk or even a giant beaver/ rodent tooth. What age are the deposits it was found in? mmmm.... giant beaver? you could be right My Florida Walrus tusk... found in a shell dump around Ruskin Edited July 27, 2010 by Fossili Veraci Erosion... will be my epitaph! http://www.paleonature.org/ https://fossilnews.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Whatever it is, it's delaminating like a walrus tusk. Is that really a wear facet on the distal end, or is it merely a shear face? Harry, the distal end is pretty abrasive like it's was wearing against an opposing tooth/tusk. ????? What do you mean by "pretty abrasive"? A wear facet, tooth-on-tooth, in life is smooth, not abrasive. It does not appear to be a giant beaver incisor, not even close. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyfuss Posted July 28, 2010 Author Share Posted July 28, 2010 What do you mean by "pretty abrasive"? A wear facet, tooth-on-tooth, in life is smooth, not abrasive. It does not appear to be a giant beaver incisor, not even close. OK, to clarify; I believe the distal end to be a wear facet once reasearching the term. Not hip to the lingo here yet. Thanks! Just can't seem to find anything on the web that seems a definintive match. BTW: Harry, I really appreciated reading your tips somewhere on this forom about mixing Duco and acetone to preserve fossils. Good stuff. "You should know by the kindness of a dog the way a human should be"-Don Van Vliet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy 55 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Could it be a Ground Sloth (Glossotherium) canine sure looks like one ? It's my bone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy 55 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 To see a picture go to PaleoDiscoveries.com and go to their fossil photo gallery and look under sloth. It's my bone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Could it be a Ground Sloth (Glossotherium) canine sure looks like one ? Sloth was also my first guess after seeing the pictures in this thread. It's just massive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Ground Sloth? Didn`t migrate from the South at the Pliocene interchange? Perhaps I am saying a stupid question, but I`m not an expert on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 (edited) I don't think it's a sloth tooth, certainly not a Glossotherium caniniform. Edited July 29, 2010 by Harry Pristis http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Ground Sloth? Didn`t migrate from the South at the Pliocene interchange? Perhaps I am saying a stupid question, but I`m not an expert on this... It did, but there are also Plio-Pleistocene fossils occasionally found mixed in the rivers and creeks of South Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 I don't think it's a sloth tooth, certainly not a Glossotherium canine. It's certainly not Paramylodon (previously Glossotherium). It more closely resembles Megalonyx, see attachment. However, I'm not sold on it being sloth. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scylla Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 It does not appear to be a giant beaver incisor, not even close. I agree, just trying to give examples of teeth with wear facets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyfuss Posted August 2, 2010 Author Share Posted August 2, 2010 Bump. Just putting it back out there...REALLY would like to know what the heck it is. Thanks! "You should know by the kindness of a dog the way a human should be"-Don Van Vliet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoRon Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 It looks like a walrus tusk with an unusual wear facet. If the center of the wear facet has a different consistency than the exterior of the tooth it would be a good indication that it is walrus. The only other thing I can think of is that it a giant malformed sperm whale tooth, but it is easily three times larger than the largest whale tooth I have found in that area and the wear facet doesn't look like any I have seen on a modern or fossil sperm whale tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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