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Could Be A Tilly Bone? Help...


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Hello All, attached are a few pics to help me out. I found this bone down in Chesapeake Beach, MD within the Calvert Cliff formations. Most fossils pulled from the cliffs are from 13 million to about 21 million years. I found this fossil within the water edge at the cliffs. A fellow professor has said he believes it may be a Tilly Bone. I figured a second opinion can never hurt... I was thinking (hoping) that it was a toe claw from a giant ground sloth. From what I have seen, Tilly bones are very variable in size and shape. Any suggestions and help would be great!

Thanks all!

Larry

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Maybe -- Here is a fossil tilly bone. It is a LOT smaller than yours...

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Classic Tilly bone!

"There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant

“Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley

>Paleontology is an evolving science.

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call me innocent and uncultured but what is a "Tilly Bone"?

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Dallas Paleontology Society Occasional Papers Vol. 9 2011

"Pennsylvanian Stratigraphy and Paleoecology of Outcrops in Jacksboro, Texas"

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Texas Paleontology Society Feb, 2011

"Index Fossils and You" A primer on how to utilize fossils to assist in relative age dating strata"

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call me innocent and uncultured but what is a "Tilly Bone"?

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"There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant

“Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley

>Paleontology is an evolving science.

>May your wonders never cease!

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ahhh gotcha,

adding it to the old vocab.

PUBLICATIONS

Dallas Paleontology Society Occasional Papers Vol. 9 2011

"Pennsylvanian Stratigraphy and Paleoecology of Outcrops in Jacksboro, Texas"

Author

Texas Paleontology Society Feb, 2011

"Index Fossils and You" A primer on how to utilize fossils to assist in relative age dating strata"

Author

Quotes

"Beer, Bacon, and Bivalves!"

"Say NO to illegal fossil buying / selling"

"They belong in a museum."

Education

Associates of Science - 2011

Bachelors of Science (Geology & Biology) - 2012 est.

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Raises an interesting question -- lyoung has a 4.5 inch Tilly bone, I have one at 1.25 inches.. What is the range and how does the size of a tilly bone relate to the size of the fish it came from . Is it like teeth where 1 inch = 10 feet?

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Raises an interesting question -- lyoung has a 4.5 inch Tilly bone, I have one at 1.25 inches.. What is the range and how does the size of a tilly bone relate to the size of the fish it came from . Is it like teeth where 1 inch = 10 feet?

The main issue with Tilly bones is identification. By that I mean associating specific

Tilly bones with specific fish species and to complicate the equation the size may

differ between species as well as the age of the fish. Finding complete skeletons

with Tilly bones is necessary. :wacko:

Well that the short answer from one who knows enough about the subject

to be dangerous :D

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Mystery fossils which eventually point to Tilly bones

pop-up frequently here as well as on other fossil discussion

forums.

Here is such a post on the Paleolist and what is different

about this post is the specimen is NOT a fossil and

was found on the Ohio River.

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Raises an interesting question -- lyoung has a 4.5 inch Tilly bone, I have one at 1.25 inches.. What is the range and how does the size of a tilly bone relate to the size of the fish it came from . Is it like teeth where 1 inch = 10 feet?

i probably ought to go research it some more before i post, but i'm not sure that there's enough uniformity to the hyperostosis that the phenomenon represents to consider it reliable for gauging the size of the critter.

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i probably ought to go research it some more before i post, but i'm not sure that there's enough uniformity to the hyperostosis that the phenomenon represents to consider it reliable for gauging the size of the critter.

I totally 100% agree...You can research the heck out the subject

and not end up knowing any more than what has already been published

or discussed somewhere on one of the many Tilly threads.

Sooner or later we are going to need a Pinned" on Tilly bone

so when the subject comes up again (and it will) we can simply

point to the "Pinned" post.

Just Joking! :laughing on the floor 24:

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What the heck are Tilly Bones?

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"There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant

“Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley

>Paleontology is an evolving science.

>May your wonders never cease!

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tilly bones are just some boney part of a fish that happens to go all incredible hulkish and add bunches of unnecessary bone, possibly as a means of calcium-dumping due to some imperfect other regulatory process in its system of dealing with its environment and metabolism. i read somewhere (like wikipedia, probably) that it might be a mechanism triggered by the fish being in a hypersaline environment. don't know. once chemistry becomes involved, i sometimes have to "ad lib" on the information i toss out. reminds me of that time i got an "A" on a lab experiment by guessing that the product i turned in would not be tested to see if it really was reagent-grade anhydrous magnesium sulfate. it was the right weight. it was pretty and nicely labeled.

so yeah, anyway, um, tilly bones are like oak galls, only with lots of calcium.

<sigh>

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Raises an interesting question -- lyoung has a 4.5 inch Tilly bone, I have one at 1.25 inches.. What is the range and how does the size of a tilly bone relate to the size of the fish it came from . Is it like teeth where 1 inch = 10 feet?

:rolleyes:

His appears to only be 4.5 cm to me. Cause the ruler itself is metric :)

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not that it matters too much to the question, but I believe lyoung's ruler is metric- 4-5 cm rather than inches- a lot closer to your 1.25 in. C

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cck, good catch and lack of attention to detail on my part.

indy, Nice link!!! seeing the fossil and then seeing an actual "real" tilly bone makes a tremendous difference. Helps me realize why I do not find many of these. Actually, I have only found the one in the photo.

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For the Record

Google archives all posts and replies on our forum.

View all archived pages where the phrase "Tilly bone"

is mentioned: Click Here :D

Google IMAGE Search...Only search our forum and only show

Images on pages where the phrase "Tilly bone" was mentioned

Click Here :laughing on the floor 24:

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Google IMAGE Search...Only search our forum and only show

Images on pages where the phrase "Tilly bone" was mentioned

Click Here :laughing on the floor 24:

Thanks Indy, this is new knowledge for me, it will help improve my future searches.

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I NEVER EVER EVER EVER

use the simple basic Google Search

I always use the Advanced Search engine Click Here

as well as the Advanced Image Search engine Click Here

All fossil enthusiast (in my opinion) will save a lot of

time searching using the Advanced search engines

because it makes refined searches easy.

Those that see this post...

Please share the information with others

Barry

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