fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 i found this old baby in a pennsylvanian era formation in s/e oklahoma, it's 9 in. long and 7 in. wide, it has two projections, one on each side, it appears it used these projections to move itself on the bottom of the sea, i would send more photos but they are all to large, any info would be appreciated! thanks, this is my first upload, i hope it is right,if anyone sees this would they please let me know, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Fossils Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Yep we see it loud and clear! I unfortunately don't have any clue what this is, but it sure looks like a horseshoe crab! lol. I personally have never seen anything like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Hi fossil dude My primary focus for many years has been researching one specific fossiliferous Pennsylvanian locality near St. Louis, MO The reason you can't upload multiple pictures is because there is a 2MB limit on each post/reply. Your camera takes very good high quality 2595wide x 1944high 1.89MG images. If you would re-size images to lets say no larger than 1000 wide then save you will find that the file size of the image would be greatly reduced allowing the posting of multiple pictures. Of course, save the re-sized images using a different name not to overwrite the original. In order to anaylze the picture you posted...I re-sized and and tweaked a little. The images below are 1000 wide and the file sizes are only 151KB and 129KB I have never seen a marine Pennsylvanian creature with this appearance. Was this specimen collected in an area where you are finding marine fossils or plant fossils? Or possibly both? Barry Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I really can't ID the specimen but can venture a guess You mentioned there is another leg-shape on the other side. I'm not saying it's not fossilized but what I see reminds me of a mud ball with a root running through it. Hopefully there are members which have seen similar shapes and can positively ID your specimen Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossisle Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Looks like a coiled cephalopod which has some holdfast attached after it was lying ion the ocean floor Cephalopods rule!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) Looks like a coiled cephalopod which has some holdfast attached after it was lying ion the ocean floor KUDOS..."fossisle" This specimen now makes perfect sense... The outer crushed rim does have appearance pointing to cephalopod...I noticed that but the "root like" inclusion scrambled my mind and discounted it. If the outer rim (viewed straight on) is flat then the ceph could very well be Domatoceras sp. Now the focus is on the fascinating "holdfast" Barry Edited August 28, 2011 by Indy Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) Here's a link to a previous discussion for comparison My link Edited August 28, 2011 by Indy Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 i found this old baby in a pennsylvanian era formation in s/e oklahoma, it's 9 in. long and 7 in. wide, it has two projections, one on each side, it appears it used these projections to move itself on the bottom of the sea, i would send more photos but they are all to large, any info would be appreciated! thanks, this is my first upload, i hope it is right,if anyone sees this would they please let me know, thanks i have been excavating this site for many years, i have nine of these fossils, this one being the most complete, i have searched for it everywhere its identifcation still eludes me, they all have the horn like appendeges, the area where i found them is all marine, all carboniferous era, some fossils found in conjunction are: spirifer,metacoceras,platyceras, strobeus, subulites, pseudozygoplura, streptocis,bactrites, cymatospira, michelinoceras, griffithides, myolina, lima, promytilus, orthonota, polypora, fenestilla, petalotus teeth and at least 50 others, very prolific site, upon close examination it is quite apparent this fossil was a bottom dweller and used it's appendages for locomotion, it's carapice is about 1/8 in thick , 9 in long 7 in wide, this is not a mud ball ! and the appendage is attached and part of this fossil, not something that attached it's self later, i thank you all that had input, i appreciate it, God bless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullsnake Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Shark egg case? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Weird items. Finding several means they're something. Could you show pictures from several angles, please? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Did you mean to say that it's 1/8 inch thick? I ask because it looks much thicker, if it is 7" X 9" in the other two dimensions... "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 Hi fossil dude My primary focus for many years has been researching one specific fossiliferous Pennsylvanian locality near St. Louis, MO The reason you can't upload multiple pictures is because there is a 2MB limit on each post/reply. Your camera takes very good high quality 2595wide x 1944high 1.89MG images. If you would re-size images to lets say no larger than 1000 wide then save you will find that the file size of the image would be greatly reduced allowing the posting of multiple pictures. Of course, save the re-sized images using a different name not to overwrite the original. In order to anaylze the picture you posted...I re-sized and and tweaked a little. The images below are 1000 wide and the file sizes are only 151KB and 129KB I have never seen a marine Pennsylvanian creature with this appearance. Was this specimen collected in an area where you are finding marine fossils or plant fossils? Or possibly both? Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 Did you mean to say that it's 1/8 inch thick? I ask because it looks much thicker, if it is 7" X 9" in the other two dimensions... no the shell tickness is 1/8 in thick the creature itself is globular, the under side is crushed but you can see where the other appendage is and it's now pointing up but if if inflate it to original shape it points down as the other one does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 the under side is crushed , the horn is pointed up but if you inflate it to it's original shape it would point down the same as the other one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 repost of whats it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 repost of whats it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 It is bizarre! Completely beyond my knowledge, and my imagination. The "appendage(s)" don't seem to be segmented; do they appear to articulate at their base? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 It looks to be closely related to this specimen: http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromeus Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 really is a very rare fossil. looks like a fishbone, or a armor http://MinerFossil.Jimdo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 repost of whats it? couldn't figure out how to get the new phots to the right place, the obverse side of this fossil is crushed and the horn stub is pointing the wrong direction but if you were to pull it back out to original shape they both would point down, it's obvious the animal used its appendages for self locomotion, in its original shape it is globose, and the mouth would be about 5in x 4in, the pointed part is the top, the horn points down, i can tell you this is the rarest fossil i have ever found and i have some rare ones! no brag just facts, i have collected this site for over 30 years and have found over 80 genera there, i would love to know what this fossils genera is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 It is bizarre! Completely beyond my knowledge, and my imagination. The "appendage(s)" don't seem to be segmented; do they appear to articulate at their base? the bony part that holds the appendage to the body has what appears to be small teeth that would let the appendage move, i believe it moved very slowly and a small distance at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 couldn't figure out how to get the new phots to the right place, the obverse side of this fossil is crushed and the horn stub is pointing the wrong direction but if you were to pull it back out to original shape they both would point down, it's obvious the animal used its appendages for self locomotion, in its original shape it is globose, and the mouth would be about 5in x 4in, the pointed part is the top, the horn points down, i can tell you this is the rarest fossil i have ever found and i have some rare ones! no brag just facts, i have collected this site for over 30 years and have found over 80 genera there, i would love to know what this fossils genera is! Topics merged for continuity. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 here is a pic of part of the appendage, you can see it is rolled, with a hollow core. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 the bony part that holds the appendage to the body has what appears to be small teeth that would let the appendage move, i believe it moved very slowly and a small distance at a time. also i believe it had a large fleshy foot kinda like an abalone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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