Auspex Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 here is a pic of part of the appendage, you can see it is rolled, with a hollow core. I took the liberty of lightening the image: "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 I took the liberty of lightening the image: thank you auspex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Thank you, for bringing this puzzle to our Forum! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 Thank you, for bringing this puzzle to our Forum! i could send more pics, do you think more is needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Appears to be a bizarre rhizome or tuber. Also worth considering some type of pathological growth or plant cancer (tumor). Sure is strange but my vote is definitely botanical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 i could send more pics, do you think more is needed? You had mentioned other specimens; are pictures available of them, for comparison? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 28, 2011 Author Share Posted August 28, 2011 Appears to be a bizarre rhizome or tuber. Also worth considering some type of pathological growth or plant cancer (tumor). Sure is strange but my vote is definitely botanical. i don't think you have read all the posting i posted all fossils from this site are marine its easy and simple to see it is an animal, if it was a cancer it would be unique, i have nine of these albeit this one is the best condition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 (edited) fossil dude I know the original pictures are large causing problems uploading more than 1 image on a post Your reply #15 .... The FIRST picture in the block of 3 the one that shows the reverse of the 1st picture you posted Post the ORIGINAL Large picture...do not reduce the size We can edit it to produce closeup views and upload to this this thread Barry Edited August 28, 2011 by Indy Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 i don't think you have read all the posting i posted all fossils from this site are marine its easy and simple to see it is an animal, if it was a cancer it would be unique, i have nine of these albeit this one is the best condition Even though we disagree I did read all of your posts. Actually cancerous plant growths would not necessarily be a unique occurrence assuming a large scale pathogenic event capable of affecting a widespread area. Looking forward to more information on your interesting specimen. Thanks again for posting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyomingRocks! Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 It looks like you figured out how to post picturs and everything. I just got your email today on how to do it and was visiting the forum to give you step by step instructions and saw your posts. Just to let everybody know; I have held this fossil in hand and it has a calcium carbonate shell that is about 1/8 inch thick - it just has part of the original 'mud' inside that may be throwing everybody off. You can see this on the 2nd picture as the shell is broke off at the edge and it goes to mudstone that was inside the specimen. It is crushed somewhat and the appendage looks to be solid with no segmentation. I have been telling fossil dude that I believe it may be part of the armor of a type of fish but I have no facts to back that up. I have found pieces of this specimen myself; wish I could find a complete perfect one! If you look closely at the picture that shows the appendage you can see where some small colonies of coral were beginning to form. A large part of the fossils found in this site are dark to almost black so it may throw some insites off. I did not see anything that would suggest 'eyes' on this unusual fossil. A couple of the types of Strobeus found there can reach 5-6" in length if not bigger. We have found several Petalodus shark teeth there also. WyomingRocks! Stephen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Well...Here we have a Pennsylvanian fossil Gold mine A plant rich ideal environment would attract gastropods that could easily grow large. A plant rich environment could also be the reason why the fossils are dark in color. The sound of all those large gastropods munching on plant material would ring the dinner bell for the (crusher shark) Petalodus. Barry Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimB88 Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 reminds me of a spined nautaloid (such as Cooperoceras from the Permian of Texas.) To speculate, perhaps its an earlier stage in its evolution? From the pics Im not seeing any joints in the "appendages" which could mean they're spines instead of legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 Yep we see it loud and clear! I unfortunately don't have any clue what this is, but it sure looks like a horseshoe crab! lol. I personally have never seen anything like it. hey i like you florida fossils, thanks! man that is getting down to business!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 Even though we disagree I did read all of your posts. Actually cancerous plant growths would not necessarily be a unique occurrence assuming a large scale pathogenic event capable of affecting a widespread area. Looking forward to more information on your interesting specimen. Thanks again for posting! thank you piranha! for even hazarding a guess , but we have to get down to business and find it's genera or even it's species, God bless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) Well...Here we have a Pennsylvanian fossil Gold mine A plant rich ideal environment would attract gastropods that could easily grow large. A plant rich environment could also be the reason why the fossils are dark in color. The sound of all those large gastropods munching on plant material would ring the dinner bell for the (crusher shark) Petalodus. Barry i thank you have the right idea barry, i hope you and all the rest of my friends will continue to pursue the species and genera of this fantastic fossil, when i popped it out of its matrix my eyes like to have fell out, it was one of the happiest days of my life!maybee i'll post some good petalodus pics. to go with this(((((()))))))))) Edited August 29, 2011 by fossil dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 road trip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) road trip? come on by tracer, we'll go fossil hunting, ahuh when it gets below 100 degrees!!!!!!!!!!yes i have been to the museum, thanks Edited August 29, 2011 by fossil dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracer Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 come on by tracer, we'll go fossil hunting, ahuh when it gets below 100 degrees!!!!!!!!!! um, it was a link. did you click it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 You had mentioned other specimens; are pictures available of them, for comparison? yes i will take some tomorrow and upload them, hope to see you tomorrow, you youngans go to work, we'll see you tomorrow evening!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 these fotos may or may not be much help, they are single sided but if you look close you can see where the appendage was attached, these are the same fossil as the whats it, found at the same location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Good; a larger sample-base to analyze! Does this one seem to show segments, or maybe chambers? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossil dude Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 Good; a larger sample-base to analyze! Does this one seem to show segments, or maybe chambers? no those are not segments, only a place where the original shell is missing, im going to try to upload a higher quality photo of the obverse of the original whats it, i think that will help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckmerlin Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 going way out on a limb !! could it be an eurypterid species curled up with appendages missing ? belive they existed from silurian to permian anyway very very cool specimen Im green with envy !!! "A man who stares at a rock must have a lot on his mind... or nothing at all' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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fossil dude Posted August 29, 2011 Author Share Posted August 29, 2011 (edited) i think this will help it's a photo of the appendage area, if you look close you can see signs of teeth, on both sides! Edited August 29, 2011 by fossil dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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