daveyboy42 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) This one is about 4 inches long and about 1 inch wide. Fern like in appearance but found among shells. Thanks for looking! Dave Sorry I was trying not to be redundant. I am located in the ramapo mountains in northern NJ. Elevation about 750 feet. Latitude 41 06 48 North and Longitude 74 14 45 West. Fossil was buried about 6-12 inches below ground and above a soft honey colored clay. Edited September 30, 2011 by daveyboy42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Please remember that this is an international forum and not everyone knows the local geology of your "yard". On a new topic, the additional info is useful for an ID. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 This might "shed some light" on it: It doesn't look quite right for something like a shell imprint...I wonder if it could be a trackway? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Looks ammonoid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Looks ammonoid? My first thought, but wouldn't that be an odd keel? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piranha Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 My first thought, but wouldn't that be an odd keel? Are there forms of this type that lack a sharply defined keel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Are there forms of this type that lack a sharply defined keel? Yes but I don't recognize this one. The ribs would have to be very sharply pointed. Could use a side view to detect any curvature. Did anyone establish the age? Edited September 30, 2011 by BobWill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Did anyone establish the age? Don't know if the collector knows the age from the information given Anyone familiar with the area? An educated guess sure would be helpful Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Don't know if the collector knows the age from the information given Anyone familiar with the area? An educated guess sure would be helpful Here's what we have, from a previous post: I was recently digging in my yard in the ramapo mountains of Northern NJ and came upon a large group of marine fossils "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) Don't know if the collector knows the age from the information given Anyone familiar with the area? An educated guess sure would be helpful My VERY general map shows some Permian and Triassic but mostly stratta too old for ammonites. Are any bryozoa similar? Edited September 30, 2011 by BobWill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Most likely - Devonian/Silurian Green Pond Outlier. My link His other post was a Horn coral, so... Still don't know what this could be... Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) My VERY general map shows some Permian and Triassic but mostly stratta too old for ammonites. Are any bryozoa similar? The only bryozoan that comes to mind would be Archimedes but I think it went extinct at the end of the Mississippian or early Permian? . Edited October 1, 2011 by Indy Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Interesting feature ... series of holes May or may not be helpful in IDing the culprit? Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) Sometimes different orientations help Didn't help me, however others might see something . Can we rule out trackway ? . Edited October 1, 2011 by Indy Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy42 Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 Thanks for all of your thoughts on this interesting piece. I really do not know the age or history. I am am very novice. I hope I can clarify a few things to help. I live in a heavily wooded area at the edge of ringwood state park in the ramapo mountains. My property is on the northwest side of the mountains. This piece was dug up with a very large variety of braciopods and corals that I have recently dug up. It was not my initial intention to dig for fossils, we have an open swale that brings rain water through my property and into an easement that the town is supposed to maintain, but doesn't. With all of the rain lately some new rock had been exposed. As I was clearing the swale I came across these large flat chunks of rock with many, many fossils in them, I was hooked. The stone appears to be sandstone with shale interspersed throughout. Yesterday I uncovered 2 very large pieces which were both laying at about a 45-55 degree angle with the top ends toward the NW and the buried ends toward the SE. My house is the only house that has been on this property and I think the only construction back there was the clearing of the swale. My wife says that these fossils smell like cat litter. I've never owned a cat and have a horrible sense of smell so I don't know how accurate that is or if it even helps. Weather permitting I will try to take some pics of the area, hole they came from and the newest slabs I uncovered. I am attaching two side photos. Thanks again, Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) The 2 pictures above are dark and out of focus indicating the camera lens is to close to the specimen If possible please take pictures outside in full sunlight and upload the large original size pictures. The brachiods may help with determining age :pic: edit of pic 1 in reply 16 (above) Reminds me of Archimedes . Edited October 1, 2011 by Indy Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy784 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Can't finish looking into this right now. I think we may be looking at a molluscan trace fossil genericaly known as "the motorcycle track" trace fossil. Look into Climactichnites sp. Just google images for this trace fossil. I don't believe it's plant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Can't finish looking into this right now. I think we may be looking at a molluscan trace fossil genericaly known as "the motorcycle track" trace fossil. Look into Climactichnites sp. Just google images for this trace fossil. I don't believe it's plant. Climactichnites Website: My link Website: My link Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyguy784 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Climactichnites sp is listed as occuring in late Cambrian. A detailed Geologic map of the area does show some Cambrian material occuring in that area. I'll have to look at the geology more closely at this point. Right now.....I gotta go hunt fossils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) Climactichnites sp is listed as occuring in late Cambrian. A detailed Geologic map of the area does show some Cambrian material occuring in that area. I'll have to look at the geology more closely at this point. Right now.....I gotta go hunt fossils. Geology of New Jersey psnjmap.pdf Ringwood State Park (Map): My link . Edited October 1, 2011 by Indy Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 The very sharp detail convinces me that it isn't likely a trace fossil. I definitely has the look of a mold of a marine invertebrate. I would lean towards mollusk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy42 Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 Hi all, More pics as requested of other fossils found in the same location and the spot where I found them. Unfortunately it rained hard and filled my hole with water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Ringwood State Park is a 5000 acre (20 km²) state park in Passaic County in northeastern New Jersey, USA. The Park is located in the heart of the Ramapo Mountains in Ringwood. Geologic units in Passaic county, New Jersey: My link Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 daveyboy42 ... Please post the "original" full size picture Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveyboy42 Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 I'm not sure how to post the original pic as it is over 6 mb in size. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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