MOROPUS Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 It comes from the Cretaceous era, from the Cuenca region of Spain.I couldn`t id it for sure.Can anybody help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Siphuncle Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Moropus I'd bet a paycheck we are looking at some species of the holasteroid Echinocorys. I found a similar one on a museum trip I was leading in the Anacacho formation of South Texas on Monday. It is Taylor in age, about 72 MYA. I'll post pics once I prep mine out. They are pretty rare around here but rather large. I think I have one approaching 4 inches maximum dimension from a previous trip. Grüße, Daniel A. Wöhr aus Südtexas "To the motivated go the spoils." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomclark Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 That is a fossil Sea-Boob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOROPUS Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 Yeah! And i am a aesthetical surgery, just to implant this sylicon! I see Tom Clark! You see sexuality on a fossil! I think you need some company!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Yup seems like Tom is a lonley old man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomclark Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 :lol: :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy 55 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 When Tom says that he loves shells and the like he means it !!!! LOL :ahah3: :ahah3: It's my bone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geofossil Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 For comparison this is a specimen of Echinocorys scutata I found in Europe. At least that's what a British paleo friend called it.I know my Paleozoic echinodermata such as blastoids, etc. but I'm not too up on Mesozoic material. It is from Cretaeous deposits in England but some of the part of England had similar fauna to deposits in parts of Spain. Is your specimen quite dense (probably silicified?). I found this specimen in 1979 on a WW2 airfield in Norwich. We were walking the area looking at bits of shrapnel, etc. then it caught my eye that the ground was littered with echinoids. Hundreds of them. Probably parts of subsurface had been ploughed up to expose the echinoids when making the airstrips. Stuck this one in my pack but wish I had been there there on my own with a couple of buckets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Siphuncle Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Moropus Here is my biggest specimen of the echinoid Echinocorys texanus found a couple years ago. Geo - cool weathering pattern on your specimen leaving the ambulacra raised. Grüße, Daniel A. Wöhr aus Südtexas "To the motivated go the spoils." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 very nice example there Dan and it does look very much like the one Moropus has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy 55 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 This is my best one so far!!!! :cool: It's my bone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Siphuncle Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Worthy Sounds like TX and FL both are blessed with many nice echinoids. Most of ours are Upper and Lower Cretaceous while we have a few productive Pennsylvanian outcrops as well. When I get a chance I'll post some specimens I found this month. Grüße, Daniel A. Wöhr aus Südtexas "To the motivated go the spoils." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy 55 Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Dan, the rivers are full of echinoids around here. :shark: It's my bone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebrocklds Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 worthy do you have any of those echies for trade? it is really cool. brock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Dan, the rivers are full of echinoids around here. :shark: Good pix, Worthy. The first echinoid appears to be Oligopygus wetherbyi de Loriol which occurs in the Late Eocene Crystal River Fm of the Ocala Group Series (about 39 Ma). The third image appears to be a Cassidulus sp. There are other species of Cassidulus, but the common one from your area is C. trojanus (Cooke). C. Wythe Cooke actually named it after Troy Springs on the Suwannee River. It occurs in the same formation as O. wetherbyi. ---------Harry Pristis http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Hi Moropus, Echinocorys scutata is very variable, see http://www.chalk.discoveringfossils.co.uk/echinocorys.htm KOF, Bill. Welcome to the forum, all new members www.ukfossils check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 If it like this one, could be E.darderi, the mine cames from Alicante province and Maastrichtian in age. http://www.mbfossilcrabs.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N.AL.hunter Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Just to throw it out there, I really want one of these big/tall echinoids from Europe that I've seen several times now online and in people's collections. I have the upper half of an oreondont skull that I can trade for one. The skull has not been prepped yet, so it is available unprepped or I will prep it soon and make it available. I'll post some pictures soon, so please, anyone having one of these really big/tall echinoids keep me in mind if you want to trade. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synechodus Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Just to throw it out there, I really want one of these big/tall echinoids from Europe that I've seen several times now online and in people's collections. I have the upper half of an oreondont skull that I can trade for one. The skull has not been prepped yet, so it is available unprepped or I will prep it soon and make it available. I'll post some pictures soon, so please, anyone having one of these really big/tall echinoids keep me in mind if you want to trade. Thanks I am your man! Like I said in another thread: I have several Hemipneustes striatoradiatus and some big Echinocorysses on offer. I'm willing to offer you one of each for that partial oreodont skull. Like I said in the other thread ....... all you need to do is send me a PM ........ Cheers, Paul "And the men who hold high places, Must be the ones to start To mould a new reality, Closer to the Heart" (Rush, "Closer to the Heart" from the album "A Farewell to Kings") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synechodus Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 On Topic: Definitely an Echinocorys of some kind. As to the exact name, just like Bill pointed out earlier, Echinocorys scutata is a name often encountered and some people favour using various formae (forms) like conica , sulcata etc. to describe the variability in shape. I find a lot of these in my region; most of them are broken, distorted and/or covered in flint, but on occasion I find nice ones like these. The left one in the last picture I call my "King Echinocorys": 9 cm diameter, 7 cm high, 29 cm circumference and 0.7 Kg! For those interested in these and other echs that I find in my region; in the past I have posted trip reports on another forum, check out here and here Cheers, Paul "And the men who hold high places, Must be the ones to start To mould a new reality, Closer to the Heart" (Rush, "Closer to the Heart" from the album "A Farewell to Kings") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trilospain Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 Hi Morupus, Here you are some images of E.sulcata and E.scutata from Denmark and Belgium so you can compare. From Spain I only have from Navarra and Alicante (E.vulgaris), the size is similar but they look like different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyW Posted June 26, 2008 Share Posted June 26, 2008 hope these picture shows the difference in size and shape of Echinocorys scutata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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