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Green Mill Run Stream in Greenville North Carolina fossil layers from the Miocene and Pliocene, Upper Yorktown Formation

I found this today. There may not be enough to make an identification but it looks like part of a crab's claw to me.

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Tom, I don't think that is crab. Really not sure what it is. I am leaning towards a piece of pet wood. Doesnt really look like bone. Maybe someone else can be more specific, but I do not think it is crab claw.

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Tom, I don't think that is crab. Really not sure what it is. I am leaning towards a piece of pet wood. Doesnt really look like bone. Maybe someone else can be more specific, but I do not think it is crab claw.

I agree with you Don, I do not think it is a crab claw or bone. Cool find whatever it is.

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Process of identification "mistakes create wisdom".

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tommcclees Regular Member

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The side opposite of the pointed projections does look like petrified wood.

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Looks like fish jaw to me

fishy, fishy...

I'll throw my hat in this ring too.

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Fish for sure!

Enchodus perhaps?

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Cool it may be a fish jaw then..i didn't think of a jaw initially because the piece doesn't show any connection points between the tooth and a jaw. It's just all one smooth piece

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Looks like fish jaw to me

I consider a jaw section, but i really don't see "sockets" nor anything that screams bone. I have found many many pounds of bone in GMR but only one jaw section and it was from Anomaeodus phaseolus. I am not saying it couldn't be a fish jaw section, I just don't see it.

Enchodus jaw sections can be found there.

I have found and seen many many enchodus teeth from GMR, but I have never seen a jaw section. If you have one I would love to see a picture of it.

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my vote is for worn Enchodus jaw section, perhaps some of the Big Brook collectors would have a better opinion, have seen similar from there

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my vote is for worn Enchodus jaw section, perhaps some of the Big Brook collectors would have a better opinion, have seen similar from there

I have several things just like that from Big Brook, although smaller.

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I bet there is a wealth of detail hiding under the river encrustation...

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Here is an Encodus jaw of mine for comparison....

(note that it is not from the same formation)

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sixgill pete: "I have found and seen many many enchodus teeth from GMR, but I have never seen a jaw section. If you have one I would love to see a picture of it."

Here is a piece of palatine jaw with a tooth that I found on my recent trip to GMR.

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I bet there is a wealth of detail hiding under the river encrustation...

Auspex, that is very possible indeed. After seeing NFH's pictures I am more convinced that it is a jaw section. I would love to see it cleaned up.

Here is a piece of palatine jaw with a tooth that I found on my recent trip to GMR.

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Ron, very interesting. I have to admit if I had found that I probably would not have thought jaw section.

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I have a few Enchodus teeth from GMR as well. Thanks for the i.d. help everybody

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