sward Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Attached are some images of a small section of jaw bone with a few broken teeth that I found on my hillside yesterday. SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Nice find! Is it a fish? The teeth are really spaced far apart.. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Rather Gar-like, yes? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 I'm assuming some type of gar like fish until I hear otherwise. I looked at Barracuda, but the teeth are too far apart and aren't as "hefty". I remember seeing a similar posting in the past, but I don't remember what it was ID'd as. I guess I'd better do some searching. Some type of Enchodus??? I think they were from the upper cretaceous and this would have come from the lower??? SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vordigern Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 nice find!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshunter Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Very different, can't wait for an ID----Strange----Looks fish but like Roz said, the teeth are really spaced far apart, maybe lower jaw from Enchodus sp.---Tom Maybe Enchodus Grow Old Kicking And Screaming !!"Don't Tread On Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphactinus Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Too long and skinny for Enchodus.....it's wild looking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinodigger Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Um.... WOW. Dang I'd love to make that one of those special flying "fish"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Very different, can't wait for an ID----Strange----Looks fish but like Roz said, the teeth are really spaced far apart, maybe lower jaw from Enchodus sp.---Tom Maybe Enchodus Tom, That's the closest thing I've come up with, but having never actually seen an Enchodus fossil, I can't really compare. SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Too long and skinny for Enchodus.....it's wild looking! Xiphactinus, Do you mean the teeth are too long and skinny or the hole jaw section? SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasFossilHunter Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Xiphactinus, Do you mean the teeth are too long and skinny or the hole jaw section? I'd say he means the whole jaw section- enchodus jaws are never that long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 I'd say he means the whole jaw section- enchodus jaws are never that long The scale shown is in millimeters. I was thinking it may be too small to be Enchodus. How long are they normally? SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KansasFossilHunter Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 The scale shown is in millimeters. I was thinking it may be too small to be Enchodus. How long are they normally? I meant in proportion to the length- looks too narrow for that length Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshunter Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I just want to throw this out there, looking at the diversity of fish species today, it just might be conceivable that the jaw could be from something new, after all the Cretaceous sample pool isn't that numberous for species in Texas or the US as a whole unless there is literature out there illustrating Cretaceous marine fish I haven't seen----but would like to---Tom Grow Old Kicking And Screaming !!"Don't Tread On Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphactinus Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 I meant in proportion to the length- looks too narrow for that length Yes, this is what I meant. Enchodus jaws can be less than an inch to several inches depending upon the species, but the proportion isn't like the fossil in question. Can't wait to see what this turns out to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boneman007 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I do not believe that this is a fish jaw. I'm thinking toothed pterosaur... I, too, cannot wait to see what others think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Might be time to email out images ... Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Might be time to email out images ... Any idea who to send images to, and their contact info? I'm actually quite intrigued about this one. This is the first time I've ever posted anything that wasn't identified within 5 minutes. SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I smelled pterosaur too, but that is just a hunch. Are pterosaur teeth fixed to the jaws in the same way these are? If it were my fossil that's where I would start searching. Good luck... cool find whatever it turns out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Um.... WOW. Dang I'd love to make that one of those special flying "fish"... Maybe that's what dinodigger meant. I wasn't sure what he meant because pterosaur would have never crossed my mind. Now to start re-thinking my searches. SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Any idea who to send images to, and their contact info? I'm actually quite intrigued about this one. This is the first time I've ever posted anything that wasn't identified within 5 minutes. Yes, I would email pics to Scott Myers at SMU. He is the one that did the paper on Lance's smyers(AT)smu.edu Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Yes, I would email pics to Scott Myers at SMU. He is the one that did the paper on Lance's smyers(AT)smu.edu Roz, Thanks!. I'll get some pics sent to him right now to see what he says. SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Roz, Thanks!. I'll get some pics sent to him right now to see what he says. Sure! Lets us know when you hear back.. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sward Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Based on ya'lls latest input, I did the best I could to take some pics of the end of the fragment to see if it looks hollow. What do you think? SWardSoutheast Missouri (formerly Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX) USA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boneman007 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Yes, I would email pics to Scott Myers at SMU. He is the one that did the paper on Lance's smyers(AT)smu.edu I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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