mikeymig Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 A very rare Phyllocarid from the Pittsford shale. You can see other Silurian arthropods (Ostracods) scattered on both halves of the Phyllocarid. How good are you with Phyllocarids? I collect Devonian Phyllocarids from New York but this is my first Silurian Phyllocarid. All the research I have done tells me that this is likely Ceratiocaris but I want to be sure. Please chime in. mikey Many times I've wondered how much there is to know. led zeppelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcolmt Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I gave Pleecan a couple of silurian phylocarid ceratiocaris sp carapaces the other day, perhaps he can snap a quick picture and post . These look quite differrent, when I first saw them I thought they look like some of the Silurian cephalopod material we get in the eurypterid quarry. The phylocarid we seem to find most frequently is ceratiocaris acuminata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymig Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 Pleecan has seen this piece on my facebook page and the only thing he has said is that he likes it. Its difinitely a Phyllocarid with both halves of the carapace but im not sure what species. The Pittsford shale has a very unique fauna and most collections are missing complete specimens if they have one at all. I know a few guys who love Phyllocarids and if no one here can help I will contact them cuz it bugs me not knowing what to call something. mikey Many times I've wondered how much there is to know. led zeppelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleecan Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Hi Mikey: They do look like phyllocarid but I am not sure on the species. You might want to Ask Sam Ciurca or John A Spina jr. ceratiocaris acuminata is a good candidate.... as Malcolm has pointed out. Malcolm: have not had a chance to image the pair of phyllocarid carapace... did have a good look and believe they are only outlines.... PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymig Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I know Sam (we live in the same town) and if I ask him or show him this specimen he will want me to give it to him. Maybe I will ask him later but I wanted the members of FF to see it first. I have a great Devonian Phyllocarid collection and this specimen will look great in the display once it has it's name. Mikey Many times I've wondered how much there is to know. led zeppelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleecan Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I know Sam (we live in the same town) and if I ask him or show him this specimen he will want me to give it to him. Maybe I will ask him later but I wanted the members of FF to see it first. I have a great Devonian Phyllocarid collection and this specimen will look great in the display once it has it's name. Mikey You always can say no to Sam if he asks you to donate the specimen. I politely said no to him when he asked me to donate my eurypterids to Yale Peabody Museum... they are going to be eventually heading to the ROM instead . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleecan Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Mikey: You can also ask Dr Dave Rudkin at the ROM who is an arthropod expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymig Posted November 21, 2012 Author Share Posted November 21, 2012 Thanks for the info Peter! I contacted him so let's see what he has to say. In the past when I was building my Devonian Phyllocarid collection I ran into many snags trying to proper ID certain specimens. I have a very good reference library but the information they have on Phyllocarids is limited or completely lacking. Even the Internet hasn't helped much, in fact, if you google image the word Phyllocarid, you will see many of my specimens. Mikey Many times I've wondered how much there is to know. led zeppelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleecan Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 You are welcome Mikey! Keep us posted. PL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymig Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 It didn’t feel right posting a photo of this specimen with a name that I am not comfortable with. I prepped the animal and now at four inches long you can see the entire carapace. It’s defiantly a rare Phyllocarid but more work has to be done to find out if this species has been described. Many times I've wondered how much there is to know. led zeppelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triarthrus Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 No clue on the Pittsford material. That's rare stuff. Here's a plate of Phylocarids out of the Bertie from a few years back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeymig Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 Thats so cool Markus, they look like horseshoe crabs. Do you know the species and was that found at Langs? mikey Many times I've wondered how much there is to know. led zeppelin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 ...Here's a plate of Phylocarids out of the Bertie from a few years back. Wow! Referable to Canadaspis? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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