snolly50 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am enjoying and appreciate the comments on my ID request from yesterday. Here are some more teeth from the same batch of material. These are the ones I thought might be dolphin. Please ID. Rule is marked in mm. Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I see crocodiles... at least the one on the right. The concave base is seen in corcs and dinos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am enjoying and appreciate the comments on my ID request from yesterday. Here are some more teeth from the same batch of material. These are the ones I thought might be dolphin. Please ID. Rule is marked in mm. These might be teleost fish. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm also thinking fish, but I can't really narrow it down beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 These are pinfish teeth most likely, possibly porgy. Family Sparidae possibly Lagadon. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickNC Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Porgy teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakoMeCrazy Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 agreed. Btw, Snolly that is a really nice camera. I usually have trouble taking pics with micro material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako-mama Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 (edited) They are fish teeth, but really cant be identiied. What they are not is--porgy, which has a tapered point to the front teeth-similar to a candle. They are not pinfish which have rather flat teeth with a split in the middle of them. FIsh teeth can either be very generic or very distinct-depending on species and position in mouth. BTW: I am not speaking of molar teeth as yours are not that. Dont have time to attach pics right now but can later if needed. Edited January 22, 2013 by mako-mama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako-mama Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 here ya go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govinn Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I believe these are Dentex fish teeth... I've found many in the material from Lee Creek and that's what they were ID'ed as... check out this link... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dusanzidar/8082506628/ History will be kind to me for I intend to write it. ~Sir Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 I believe these are Dentex fish teeth... I've found many in the material from Lee Creek and that's what they were ID'ed as... check out this link... http://www.flickr.co...dar/8082506628/ great link Govinn, i believe you are correct. interesting. that fish is known only in the Med. and the eastern Atlantic now. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govinn Posted January 23, 2013 Share Posted January 23, 2013 Thanks, I have my moments of clarity every now and then... lol History will be kind to me for I intend to write it. ~Sir Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako-mama Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 There are quite a few North American snappers that might qualify for ID. But keep in mind, many fish have teeth shaped like this. I suspect it will take much more than surface appearance to make a positive ID. The Smithsonian Institution (wisely) didn't "bite the bullet" using fish teeth as an aid to ID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Govinn Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I thought snapper was a type of turtle... j/k lol Thanks Pat. History will be kind to me for I intend to write it. ~Sir Winston Churchill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolly50 Posted January 24, 2013 Author Share Posted January 24, 2013 I thought snapper was a type of turtle... j/k lol Thanks Pat. You are correct. Those teeth can't be snapper! I found this one leaving the lake behind my house . She was crossing the road to lay her eggs in the woods. I stopped her just long enough to reach in her mouth to see what kind of teeth she had. Nope, she didn't have pointy teeth! Regards, Two Finger Snolly Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, also are remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. - Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cowsharks Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 There are quite a few North American snappers that might qualify for ID. But keep in mind, many fish have teeth shaped like this. I suspect it will take much more than surface appearance to make a positive ID. The Smithsonian Institution (wisely) didn't "bite the bullet" using fish teeth as an aid to ID. Pat, are you in agreement then that the fossil teeth are a type of Snapper? They sure do look similar to the teeth in the Snapper pic you posted. Daryl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako-mama Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Daryl, I'd not be willing to go on the record that those fossil teeth are snapper. My point in sending the image of the modern jaw was to show that if someone thought their fossil fish tooth was a snapper, it didnt necesarily have to be a Mediteranian species. Most of the fish ID'd from the Yorktown and Pungo Rv are known to be modern species or closely related to them. I have many modern fish "jaws" that are similar-- that are not snappers! BTW: I had to hold back a bit-had the urge to post your snapping turtle on here. I still owe you for that-no one ever chases me with a big, nasty turtle and gets away with it. Edited January 25, 2013 by mako-mama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixgill pete Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Pat, I am wondering then, with all of the different fish teeth that are found in the Aurora material, is there a good resource for them? Elasmo has a few, and actually shows a rounded pointy type tooth as being pinfish and porgy. (slightly different shapes) If there is a resource available, I would love to know. I have a ton of different fish teeth I would love to ID. Bulldozers and dirt Bulldozers and dirt behind the trailer, my desert Them red clay piles are heaven on earth I get my rocks off, bulldozers and dirt Patterson Hood; Drive-By Truckers May 2016 May 2012 Aug 2013, May 2016, Apr 2020 Oct 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mako-mama Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Pete, Those modern fish on elasmo.com, either Jim or I caught ourselves and cleaned-or I dug into the trash bin at the Capt. Stacey fish cleaning station. Sometimes, if the Stacey guys found something realy neat or rare, they'd freeze it for me and I'd pick up and clean. Some fish we were fairly confident in our observations and we posted it on the website. Others, if we werent sure of, are still sitting under my bed and or currently being studied. A few fish have very distinctive teeth (barracuda, for instance) but others are so darn generic it's maddening. Those cone shaped teeth fit in the latter designation. Keep plugging. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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