PrehistoricFlorida Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Picked up this killer fish hook yesterday... www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nicholas Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 So yesterday? Must have sold it by now. Another great find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N.AL.hunter Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Neat, what is it made from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommabetts Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Nice find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Any artifacts you find that are made of bird bone, I'm your guy! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Siphuncle Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hey Auri, Mind if I borrow that this weekend? I'm taking my boy fishing at the coast... Grüße, Daniel A. Wöhr aus Südtexas "To the motivated go the spoils." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Neat, what is it made from? Probably a deer leg bone, metacarpal/tarsal, tibia, or humerus. Nope, I don't sell my finer fishhooks, that one if going straight into this frame once I get it preserved. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronbo Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 very nice collection of artifacts in that frame wtg.. :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Probably a deer leg bone, metacarpal/tarsal, tibia, or humerus. Nope, I don't sell my finer fishhooks, that one if going straight into this frame once I get it preserved. I think that's right, about the deer, I mean. I think I remember seeing an article (maybe The Florida Anthropologist) illustrating how it was done. I seem to recall that they actually cut the green bone on a bias to the long axis of the bone to produce the hook. I have a compound fishhook here. It's an open "j" of bone with a hole through the end through which a small barb could be secured. I'll never know how many of those I overlooked as worthless scraps of bone. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixflood Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Very cool! I can tell you had a long, fun day of playing in the water, your fingers are all wrinkled Goodtimes! The soul of a Fossil Hunter is one that is seeking, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeD Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 i second that very cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Probably a deer leg bone, metacarpal/tarsal, tibia, or humerus. Nope, I don't sell my finer fishhooks, that one if going straight into this frame once I get it preserved. I don't think so, Nate. Seems to me, you're going to need a new frame for your hooks! The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy 55 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Man what a great Hook !!!!! It's my bone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted November 8, 2008 Author Share Posted November 8, 2008 I think that's right, about the deer, I mean. I think I remember seeing an article (maybe The Florida Anthropologist) illustrating how it was done. I seem to recall that they actually cut the green bone on a bias to the long axis of the bone to produce the hook.I have a compound fishhook here. It's an open "j" of bone with a hole through the end through which a small barb could be secured. I'll never know how many of those I overlooked as worthless scraps of bone. Harry, post a pic of that hook if you get a chance. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Harry, post a pic of that hook if you get a chance. Here it is, Auriculatus. I should have called it a "composite fishhook," I think. It's behind glass, so image quality is not the best. This frame is of some of my earliest finds. Access is from the rear, and it's stuck on the wall with a museum mounting. I thought that this was just a broken fishhook, until it occurred to me that no one would put that much work into a hook only to be surprised by a vascular channel. Ben Waller agreed when he saw it. I think of this as a "crappie hook" compared to the larger all-bone hooks. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 ...I thought that this was just a broken fishhook, until it occurred to me that no one would put that much work into a hook only to be surprised by a vascular channel. Quite a piece of technology and craftsmanship to make a composite hook like that; very nice (and I assume very rare)! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 Very interesting hook, Harry. The first of that style I've seen. Fish hooks show a lot of variety down here. Of particular interest to me are the composite fish hooks made from the proximal end of raccoon bacula. I have seen sections of deer antler that are ringed for hafting and have a hole drilled for possibly inserting one of these bacula that have been cut and sharpened down. I have found probably about 50 of these composite bacula pieces, but no antler shafts to insert them into. I hypothesize that these also may have been inserted into a wooden shank for top water fishing and the antler shanks may have been for bottom water fishing. Just a thought... Anyways, here is my barbed fish hook. This particular type has been dubbed the "Webb" barbed fish hook style. These are extremely rare, only about 20 known in museum or personal collections. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 awsome hook, do you know if they made any from whale bone, wonder if you can find them at the cliffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 They did a lot with whale bone in Alaska, I'm sure they made hooks out of them. Bone artifacts are very rare and are not likely to be found at the cliffs. Bone artifacts were likely used country-wide, however, they are only preserved in a handful of places (Florida, Tennessee caves, Alaska, etc). www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Very interesting hook, Harry. The first of that style I've seen. Fish hooks show a lot of variety down here. Of particular interest to me are the composite fish hooks made from the proximal end of raccoon bacula. I have seen sections of deer antler that are ringed for hafting and have a hole drilled for possibly inserting one of these bacula that have been cut and sharpened down. I have found probably about 50 of these composite bacula pieces, but no antler shafts to insert them into. I hypothesize that these also may have been inserted into a wooden shank for top water fishing and the antler shanks may have been for bottom water fishing. Just a thought... Anyways, here is my barbed fish hook. This particular type has been dubbed the "Webb" barbed fish hook style. These are extremely rare, only about 20 known in museum or personal collections. That's truly an amazing fishhook! Someone spent a lot of time making that hook -- I'm certain he was disappointed to lose it. I'd have been thrilled to find it. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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