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Keichosaurus, Real Or Fake?


Rudrash

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Help! This is real fossil or FAKE?

I bought it from a seller from China at auction Ebay.

Thank you!

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Hard to say from the posted pictures.

To me it looks like there may be some painting on there, but, to be sure,... better, well lit, close up views of all parts would be necessary.

Very hard to determine this without the fossil in hand.

Search the forum for other threads about Keichosaurus - well covered territory here.

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The new pics look different than the first pics - did you remove the ink/paint?

The wire brush marks look more distinct too.

From the new pics - I think it looks more real, ... but I am not an expert on Keichosaurus.

Still - you never know with chinese fossils. :(

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First photo - Photo from seller on Ebay, my photos - what I received in the package. Thank you!

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Since you have the fossil in-hand, put a loupe to it. You will see details that are impossible to resolve from a picture on a monitor.

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The pictures from the ebay seller were probably made in wet condition; this may explain the difference. I'm not experienced enough to say whether this is real or not, but I see no features which argue directly or without doubts in favour of a fake. Many fakes are very bad or with obvious anatomical mistakes ... your specimen seems to me anatomically correct.

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Looks real, but a typically poor job of grind-prepping. Araucaria 1959 is correct. It was photographed wet for ebay. Black museum wax or shoe polish could be carefully applied to just the bones and buffed to make the contrast more permanent (wax is very easily removed).

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I am just wondering if the difference between the two sets of fossil pics could be explained by the dealer taking pics of the fossil while wet, or if there was some removal of paint involved somewhere?

This is my attempt at comparison:

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To me, it appears that more "prepping" was done.

Anyone else have thoughts about this?

Regards,

EDIT - I made a decent animated gif to compare the two - but it wouldn't work in the post. Sorry.

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