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jnoun11

hi gentlemen s and gentlewomenn s

i will be in tucson at the market place show until the 14 february. so if someone have questions or need identification of Moroccans mosasaur welcome.

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Egempaleo

Was lucky to find these among the “ordinary” Globidens teeth. Carinodens belgicus.

Carinodens belgicus.png

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LordTrilobite

Nice! that's a great find.

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LordTrilobite

It's interesting that there are so many different species of Mosasaurs in this area.

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LordTrilobite
23 minutes ago, jnoun11 said:

it must be everywhere the same diversity more and less an open ocean ,the rarity is just an fiction caused by the missing courage of digging an ocean size...in morocco the phosphates mines are oversized and lot of people educated in digging watch the floor...and it s more coming but i publish only the specimens with no doubt here...some mosasaurs are represented by parts only, like carinodens.

the presence of baculites bed on a basal level of phosphate beds can explain this abundance of predators in a same area. some species of mosasaurs live here (prognathodon, baugei, halisaurus) , you find the Juvenile to the seniles specimens, and some are the same size , jung adult , for me they are visitors at the time of the migration of baculites. the phosphatic bed where the bones are find didn't preserve the calcite shells or invertebrates.

(if somebody want to correct my horrible frenglish it will be cool. ;-)  )

 

Your English is pretty good for the most part. Don't worry about it.

 

 

Yes, with animals moving quite freely in water it makes sense to find a higher diversity than on land.

 

Btw, some more complete parts of Carinodens have been found. Hopefully some good material will be published in the near future.

 

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jnoun11

Hi mosasaurs lovers

Lot of you asking me about mosasaur material autenticity... 

Never buy specimens they dont have records of the prepping.pictures at list in a plaster jacket with the specimen in matrix. More pictures of the differents steps in preparation to the final specimen before painting the restorations. Never believe a dealers.friendships is different than buisness...

When you buy a specimen of vertebrates you buy a page of history of life. 

Ask for facts!!! 

To much material on a market is fake now...and not just morocco material...

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Aurelius
4 minutes ago, jnoun11 said:

Hi mosasaurs lovers

Lot of you asking me about mosasaur material autenticity... 

Never buy specimens they dont have records of the prepping.pictures at list in a plaster jacket with the specimen in matrix. More pictures of the differents steps in preparation to the final specimen before painting the restorations. Never believe a dealers.friendships is different than buisness...

When you buy a specimen of vertebrates you buy a page of history of life. 

Ask for facts!!! 

To much material on a market is fake now...and not just morocco material...

 

This is good advice... if you can afford it. Those of us that I politely term 'bottom feeders' have little choice but to stick to small pieces or make do with a bit of restoration/compositing :(

 

I've never even heard of a dealer who offers preparation photos. Is that something high-end dealers do?

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akazaran

With Moroccan material it s usually  hard to get pics of the preparation process. Apparently and for reasons that are hard to understand Moroccan preparators spend tens or hundreds of hours on a skull without taking any pictures. Maybe because there is too much restoration/reconstruction to hide? What you get to see is the final result with restored parts already painted which make it very hard to know what is real and what is not.

Sometimes if you are lucky you get pictures of the specimen in the matrix, but it is not in the majority of the cases.

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Troodon
16 hours ago, Aurelius said:

 

This is good advice... if you can afford it. Those of us that I politely term 'bottom feeders' have little choice but to stick to small pieces or make do with a bit of restoration/compositing :(

 

I've never even heard of a dealer who offers preparation photos. Is that something high-end dealers do?

I'm not sure it’s an issue of price but common practice of prep work that is done in Morocco.  Preparers I have to believe move lots of specimens and keeping a photo track record of their work does not equate to $$$. 

I know of some domestic dealers that sell what they prep keep photos of the work done.  Most preparers I've used are happy to photograph the work being done on your item if asked to do so.

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jnoun11

Its the customers they must ask for pictures its almost impossible to reconstruct a real skull without pictures. if you customers dont ask for pictures...dont complain if you buy fakes...

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