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Cidarid Echinoid Id For A Friend


LanceH

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I'm posting for a friend who purchased this "cidarid" from a collector that found it recently at a locality in the Weno formation (c. 98-99 mya) in Tarrant county, Texas.

I'm thinking it's "Phyllacanthus" (and not "Stereocidaris") just going off pictures in books but I'd like some opinions from actual knowlegable people on which this is.

"Phyllacanthus" and "Stereocidaris" are the two genuses most associated with the big cidarids around here but if there's other possibilities I'd like to know. Can someone list the easy-to-see differences between those two genuses?

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That is a stunning find. I can't imagine selling it if I found it.

I'm inclined to agree with you about it being a Phyllacanthus species. However, these finds are so rare in Texas, there are not a lot of comparable specimens. If you can still get in touch with Mike Murphy, I think he would be your best bet for a more definitive ID.

Here is a plate from the Treatise on Invertebrate Paleontology, Part U, vol. 1. Based on other notations, I've added the ID in blue. Notice the interambulacral plates on the aboral side without tubercles.

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I can't help you, but here are 2 pics of my recent Phyllacanthus imperialis from Philippines.

Aboral side :

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Oral side :

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Hope this help.

Coco

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Beautiful!! both the fossil and the recent ones. :wub:

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i would sell my furniture before selling that heirloom find.

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Grüße,

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I find myself returning to this post again and again just to have another look at these incredible fossils. Just breathtakingly beautiful to me.:)

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