Bev Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 The top, the bottom and I am 99% sure of it. BUT before I label it, I thought I should make 100% sure of it. I think it is a stunning example, you can even see the pores! Bev The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Waiting for the bryozoan expert's comments ... However, I agree its a gorgeous specimen. Would be interested in knowing the size Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 (edited) Looks like Favosites to me. But I don't see any tabulae which might rule out Favosites. Edited June 24, 2013 by Al Dente Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roz Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Very nice find, Bev!! Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Since the size of the zooids are important to the bryozoan/coral question, please give us the size of the specimen so we can infer the size of the features. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 It is a little better than 1.5 inches across. A "biggun". The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 This is Ordovician. I went through the Favosites sites, I don't think so. Bryozoa. When I took similar down to MAPS it was prasora (can't spell). I was told that only in the north does prasopora "hump". Looking at the "Big Hashplate" my favorite that was IDed in person, and this--I just plain want to say yes. BUT, "I know nothing." And that is why I posted it. AND I did give it a muratic acid bath for like 30 seconds and that is what brought out the pores. Did that help? Bev The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 It seems more "corally" to me, because of the net-like pattern of the zooid walls; a bryozoan would show pores, wouldn't it?. Whatever the pros declare it to be, I think it's very attractive. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Looks like Favosites to me Bev. "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 Are Favosites Ordovician? I only found Devonian. The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Are Favosites Ordovician? I only found Devonian. Favosites corals found as fossils in marine rocks from the Ordovician to the Permian periods. Link Flash from the Past (Show Us Your Fossils)MAPS Fossil Show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Favosites are found in the Ordovician, but I'm leaning toward bryozoa for your specimen. We have a few in our collection that are very similar to yours. Here's an example of one that shows similar pores to yours, I'm not sure if the specimen is a type of Prasopora or not, bryozoa IDing is not one of my things... I only picked it up for the trilobite part. I'll see if I can get some better comparative photos showing some of our similar bryzoa with favosites from the same formations. This bryozoa specimen is from the Platteville Formation Here is a classic Prasopora from the Cummingsville Formation of the Galena group: Edited June 25, 2013 by Caleb Caleb Midwestpaleo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) Hmmm... I have a similar specimen that a guy at MAPS Ided as a praspora... A picture of one from Gary Erickson the science teacher... Mine would be very similar to yours but without the bumps. AND could the acid have taken the bumps away as there are similar spots... It would have dissoved in the acid. I just dunked for 30 seconds and got the pores to show. Now I just don't know... Is yours mushroom like on the bottom? Edited June 25, 2013 by Bev The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamalama Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 I agree with everyone else that this is more corally looking than Bryozoan. Most Prasopora that I have found are mounded with a flat bottom. Some form a gum drop or hershey kiss like shape too but all will have the larger bump pattern on them and a flat bottom. If you dipped the fossil for 30 seconds I doubt the bumps would have been dissolved away that quick. The individual pores are very small on Bryozoa too. -Dave __________________________________________________ Geologists on the whole are inconsistent drivers. When a roadcut presents itself, they tend to lurch and weave. To them, the roadcut is a portal, a fragment of a regional story, a proscenium arch that leads their imaginations into the earth and through the surrounding terrain. - John McPheeIf I'm going to drive safely, I can't do geology. - John McPheeCheck out my Blog for more fossils I've found: http://viewsofthemahantango.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caleb Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The second photo I posted was just to show you what a typical Prasopora looked like, it's not the same specimen as you have. The first one I posted is more similar to what you have in my opinion except for shape which varies widely but is still considered a type of Prasopora. Caleb Midwestpaleo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 It is nearly flat on the bottom, looking like the bottom of a mushroom squashed. But I can also see Favosite... Hmmmm The more I learn the less I know... The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 The small details tell the story... Bryozoans have pores: Corals have walled cells: I think your specimen is a very nice coral. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev Posted June 25, 2013 Author Share Posted June 25, 2013 THANK YOU! Actually, that is even better as I do not have a Favosite coral! Bev The more I learn, I realize the less I know. BluffCountryFossils.NET Fossil Adventure Blog Go to my Gallery for images of Fossil Jewelry, Sculpture & Crafts Pinned Posts: Beginner's Guide to Fossil Hunting * Geologic Formation Maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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