fossilcrazy Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Here is a bigger file. For more critical detail click and enlarge twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Here are some technical drawings for the family of Linton Haplolepis. The fish are relatively small; but neat little fish loaded with detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 I found this little guy a couple days ago. This Haplolepis is on the small end. The average Haplolepis fish size found at Linton is between the big one of the previous post and little one from this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Wow John! Gorgeous! Thanks for posting these. That first Haplolepis is incredible! Congratulations on these finds. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 The coal that the littlest Haplolepis is on, happens to be a mass mortality layer of small shrimp like arthropods. It is hard to see in the picture and is truly harder to photograph (for me anyway); but in the bright sunlight you can see the Sincarids with faint body segments, muscle attachments for the legs and occasionally antennae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Even more spectacular, due to the association! That is way too cool. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share Posted September 3, 2013 Wow John! Gorgeous! Thanks for posting these. That first Haplolepis is incredible! Congratulations on these finds. Regards, Thanks for the Kudos Tim. You are a veteran shale splitter for fish. I should be having you help me. I can't believe how sloooooow this is going splitting the Cannel coal. I've been on it for 2 weeks now and I'm not sure if I'm even a quarter done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 John, I'm not so sure about that. I know how that goes, though, with a mountain of shale/coal to work through. I do truly enjoy seeing any North American fish personally collected, here on the forum. Can I inquire as to how you approach the splitting? I will use a cake knife, or a painter's knife, or putty knife, to split some of the paper shales I come across. Could you share some of your methods/tools here? I know I find the whole process fascinating. Regards. Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDudeCO Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Wow, these are GORGEOUS fish, I love the shiny black color of them! congrats on some beautiful finds and thanks so much for the pics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Wow, John! I missed out on this post up til now. Great finds! Congratulations!! Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 John, Sorry, I went back and read your first coelacanth post, and saw that you use a butter knife to split the shale. I can see how that would be time consuming. I would love to help you out with splitting the shale, if only I lived closer! Hopefully, you will find more fossil treasure in your stash! That amphibian can't be too far away. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siteseer Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 It's great to see some Linton material again. Years ago, Fossilselachian gave me a tooth imprint of a xenacanth shark from there. Every once in a while, I see a fish from there at a show (a Haplolepis or a coelacanth) and one dealer had a near-complete Ptyonius. I found this little guy a couple days ago. This Haplolepis is on the small end. IMG_1235.JPG IMG_1238.JPG The average Haplolepis fish size found at Linton is between the big one of the previous post and little one from this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Yesterday was a good day. Splitting Cannel coal turned up some goodies I didn't have yet. Here is the head of Amphibamus. The orbs and head plates are about as good as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Amphibamus looked like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 To improve on the day I found this partial Ptyonius. The front half of the body and front half of the tail are there. Wouldn't you know it the rest would be off the block of coal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 This stuff is totally cool. The amphibamus head especially. Spectacular. What I want to know is how you got your hands on a ton of this stuff. I always thaought the Linton, Ohio stuff was in little concretions, like Mazon Creek, but more Ohioey. Whatever that means. I swear I saw some at the ROM that were impressions in concrteions and they had to make latex peels to really be able to see the strucutres. ROM=Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Truly spectacular, John! Congratulations!! A complete one cannot be too far behind! Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 This stuff is totally cool. The amphibamus head especially. Spectacular. What I want to know is how you got your hands on a ton of this stuff. I always thaought the Linton, Ohio stuff was in little concretions, like Mazon Creek, but more Ohioey. Whatever that means. I swear I saw some at the ROM that were impressions in concrteions and they had to make latex peels to really be able to see the strucutres. ROM=Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto. JPC, How did I get my hands on this stuff? By being at the right place at the right time. I almost missed the window completely by my silly disinterest and procrastinating. You are correct about many things except the concretions part. Mazon Creek and Linton both have Pennsylvanian age Fish and Amphibians. Many are the same species but not all. The ROM and many museums from around the world have the Linton material in their holdings. The Carnegie and Field have the largest collections of Linton. When they were first discovered, it was a big thing - air breathing vertebrates from the Pennsylvanian age! It seems latex peels were the easiest way to study fossils that are all black. I have a heck of a time getting good pictures for just the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Great Googly Moogly! Tetrapods in coal!!! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missourian Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 It seems latex peels were the easiest way to study fossils that are all black. I have a heck of a time getting good pictures for just the same reason. My iPhone camera would be perfect for Linton material (if I was fortunate to have some). I'd been struggling with overexposed photos of fossils on black shale, such as this conodont: If you have an iPhone or something with a similar camera, you should give it a try. Context is critical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Those are just awesome jaw dropping finds! Congrats. Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'm covered in soot up to my elbows...nothing like that in my BBQ pit. 'Museum grade' finds, John. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'm covered in soot up to my elbows...nothing like that in my BBQ pit. 'Museum grade' finds, John. Smiling to think of a picture of how that might look and then laughing at how absolutely filthy I got digging old coal piles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilcrazy Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 My iPhone camera would be perfect for Linton material (if I was fortunate to have some). I'd been struggling with overexposed photos of fossils on black shale, such as this conodont: 1663-Streptognathodus.jpg If you have an iPhone or something with a similar camera, you should give it a try. Missourian, I have an old flip phone and probably will always have, until it doesn't work anymore. Should go to the Verizon kiosk just to see if a new model addresses this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgrilusHunter Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Truly amazing finds! "They ... savoured the strange warm glow of being much more ignorant than ordinary people, who were only ignorant of ordinary things." -- Terry Pratchett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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