Guest bmorefossil Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 i have a couple of these things i think they are fish but i dont think i have seen them come from PCS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 someone told me puffer fish? This is 3" long so i thought it might be to big for puffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makoken Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 someone told me puffer fish? This is 3" long so i thought it might be to big for puffer Kind of looks like a worn whale molar. Are there any signs of enamal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Kind of looks like a worn whale molar. Are there any signs of enamal? here is the thing, one of the others i have is worn and i was thinking the same as you, whale tooth but its not, i dug this out, its flat on one side and round on the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
makoken Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 here is the thing, one of the others i have is worn and i was thinking the same as you, whale tooth but its not, i dug this out, its flat on one side and round on the other i'll be interested to see what everyone comes up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 i'll be interested to see what everyone comes up with. im pretty sure its fish thats as much as i know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 im pretty sure its fish thats as much as i know It looks like a Tilley bone; I have a bucket-full of them. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleoRon Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 It looks like a puffer fish skull element like you might find at Lee Creek but three inches would make it huge for a puffer. Maybe another type of fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 It looks like a puffer fish skull element like you might find at Lee Creek but three inches would make it huge for a puffer. Maybe another type of fish? yea maybe something else, i guess ill keep looking around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 It looks like a Tilley bone; I have a bucket-full of them. see what was i just saying, all these tilly bones!!! lol i wish i knew all the different forms of the tilly bones because i have a bunch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 ...i wish i knew all the different forms of the tilly bones because i have a bunch Given their pathological nature, the morphology is nearly infinite. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Given their pathological nature, the morphology is nearly infinite. wow really, man i had no idea, could the size of this one help me find the fish it came from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 ...could the size of this one help me find the fish it came from? I think "bony fish" is the best you can do for most of them. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I think "bony fish" is the best you can do for most of them. yea i guess your right, time for me to start a bucket lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It kinda looks like this Sphoeroides hyperstosis, pufferfish gill plate (ventral postcleithra). This website has a pic a few fossils down: http://www.fossiliferous.co.uk/fishusa.htm From the Fossilguy website: Pufferfish Gill Plates Kevin Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metopocetus Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 It kinda looks like this Sphoeroides hyperstosis, pufferfish gill plate (ventral postcleithra). This website has a pic a few fossils down:http://www.fossiliferous.co.uk/fishusa.htm From Jason's website: Pufferfish Gill Plates Nice find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boy Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Jayson, on another note, if you read this, sorry for spelling your name incorrectly. My bad! It's kinda like when people call me Kelvin . Honestly, I was just typing too fast! I tried to correct my error quickly but not quick enough, LOL. Kevin Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 yep looks like a gill plate which i was thinking it was but i still think its something other than puffer, i think 3 inches very big, im sure there is a larger fish that has a similar looking gill plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I had about 3 bones that looked a bit like that, and a fellow told me they were the bigger part of a ray/skate jaw bone. Thats my two cents. RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I had about 3 bones that looked a bit like that, and a fellow told me they were the bigger part of a ray/skate jaw bone. Thats my two cents. RB ill check on that but it really does look like a gill cover of some kind, thanks RJB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boy Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Maybe there were some big ones back in the Miocene. The Oceanic Puffer (Lagocephalus lagocephalus) grows to over 36" long of Indonesia, and the Smooth Puffer (Lagocephalus laevigatus) from the Atlantic grows to over 40" long. And the North-West Blowfish (Lagocephalus sceleratus) from the Pacific grows to a whopping 44"! That's one big bag of air! The most common puffer along the Western Atlantic inshore waters is the Northern Puffer, grows to about 12" long. Porcupine fish also get pretty large, 36" for the largest species. All of them have similar opercular plates. That said, from what I could find on the web, and there isn't much, there aren't many fish with that shape gill plates. Maybe triggerfish and filefish are similar, but when did they evolve? Kevin Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 that is true, you would think that there would be larger ones found in PCS and not in Maryland, there might be people with larger ones and they dont post pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boy Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I have yet to find one in Maryland, so you've got a pretty good find IMO. That said, I'm searching over older material most of the time. I've found mouth plates but not here, in SC. I would think that I'd find some gill plates once in a while though. I have collected some Pliocene Yorktown Formation in Virginia before and found the mouth plates, so maybe I'll get lucky and find the gill plates next time Kevin Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I have yet to find one in Maryland, so you've got a pretty good find IMO. That said, I'm searching over older material most of the time. I've found mouth plates but not here, in SC. I would think that I'd find some gill plates once in a while though. I have collected some Pliocene Yorktown Formation in Virginia before and found the mouth plates, so maybe I'll get lucky and find the gill plates next time yea ill see if i can find the 3 that look the same and get a picture of them next to a ruler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 yea ill see if i can find the 3 that look the same and get a picture of them next to a ruler. It seems strange to me to think that those can be gill plates. Im no fish expert in any since of the word, but it would be very interesting if you do get those ID'd. RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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