ActionJ Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 "So it okay to collect vertebrates as well as invertebrates? So let's say for argument sake this newly found skull is connected to 30 feet of vertebrae, can it be legally collected?" I think that the laws concerning vertebrate collection are not concerned with the collection of vertebral bones and more concerned with the collection of VERTEBRATE fossils as a whole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XZY Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Yes, I agree....... "Vertebrate" fossils ( whole or in part ) as opposed to "Invertebrate" fossils. We have the same distinction in British Columbia with regard to collecting. No "vertebrate" skeletal material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 The only restrictions in Texas have nothing to do with whether the fossil is a vertebrate. Also there are some situations where you can collect on private property without permission, but it gives collectors a bad name when we take something large that requires excavation or has significant value. If this were an important Mosasaur a paleontologist associated with a museum or university should contact the property owner. This would assure better security and might make access easier. If it's on a road right-of-way there are typically no regulations but if it's a major excavation, you should tell the controlling authority what you plan for safety reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Rick Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I hope John shows up soon, we may have to send out a search party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katfish61 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 What a great find,just beautiful. That is crazy, in Plano? Who would have thought? Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XZY Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/Planning_and_Renewable_Resources/coop_agencies/paleontology_library/paleo_publications.Par.33400.File.dat/FossilsAmerPubLands.pdf This is an interesting brochure regarding collecting in Texas........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 (edited) http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/Planning_and_Renewable_Resources/coop_agencies/paleontology_library/paleo_publications.Par.33400.File.dat/FossilsAmerPubLands.pdf This is an interesting brochure regarding collecting in Texas........ This is a good resource but only for BLM land. There is almost no BLM land in Texas because when Texas was annexed all of the public land was owned by the state and that didn't change with annexation. Edited November 29, 2013 by BobWill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarno367 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 If you go to this website under the natural resources code, It appears pretty clear what the regulation is regarding collecting fossils on Texas State owned lands. Regards http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/parkinfo/rules_and_regulations/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I can only echo the others, John S. Please get someone knowledgable involved in recovering this fossil intact - if it isn't done exactly the right way, all you'll have will be a handfull of bone splinters. Rich The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 If you go to this website under the natural resources code, It appears pretty clear what the regulation is regarding collecting fossils on Texas State owned lands. Regards http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/parkinfo/rules_and_regulations/ Also a good resource but only for state parks. You can't pick up a dead fly in a state park but they represent a small portion of state owned lands. There are also some federal controlled areas in Texas like National Forests, National Parks and Corps of Engineers controlled areas, and I'm guessing the new regulations will allow some collecting on all but the parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarno367 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Also a good resource but only for state parks. You can't pick up a dead fly in a state park but they represent a small portion of state owned lands. There are also some federal controlled areas in Texas like National Forests, National Parks and Corps of Engineers controlled areas, and I'm guessing the new regulations will allow some collecting on all but the parks. Bob, My interpretation of any land is is not just referring to parks. Am I wrong? Anyone else with some clarification? that are located in, on, or under the surface of any land belonging to the State of Texas or to any county, city, or political subdivision of the state are state archeological landmarks and are eligible for designation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
claire01 Posted November 30, 2013 Share Posted November 30, 2013 So jealous...congratulations! Fossil hunting has been on the back burner for me for a little while, but you have inspired me to get back out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRK Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Any updates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanNREMTP Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Bob, My interpretation of any land is is not just referring to parks. Am I wrong? Anyone else with some clarification? that are located in, on, or under the surface of any land belonging to the State of Texas or to any county, city, or political subdivision of the state are state archeological landmarks and are eligible for designation. Any land belonging to the state of Texas. Private property is still private property. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chele Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Congrats on a very cool find! Major finds get very complicated, found on private or public land. Good luck with your dig. Chelebele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espeton Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Any fresh news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 (edited) Any land belonging to the state of Texas. Private property is still private property. I believe that law is for artifacts, not fossils. Texas is very strict about archeological remains. Also in Texas privately owned creeks and rivers are open for most activities if they qualify as "navigable waterways" by the Corps of Engineers, which means averaging at least 30 feet bank to bank. That law has been upheld in court but sometimes it can be risky. edit: This seems to apply to any activity not otherwise illegal and only removal of commercial quantity of rock is banned. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/publications/nonpwdpubs/water_issues/rivers/navigation/riddell/lawfulactivities.phtml Edited December 18, 2013 by BobWill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old dead things Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Like many other members, I am anxiously awaiting an update. Was the head collected? Was there more than we could see? What is the status of the skull? Jim Old Dead Things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
younghound Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I used to walk around Plano all the time. Crazy to realize what I could have literally walked over. I'm guessing you have a smart phone. It might help to use the gps on it. Mark the location and make a grid. Work it out. Good job!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRK Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 It. Has been several months now, so how bout an update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Contender Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 It. Has been several months now, so how bout an update!i second that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRK Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Any updates on this lovely fossil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jace Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 OMg amazing!! Updates!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrian Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Has anybody sent him a PM? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwise Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Amen to what BobWill says......get with the Fossil Bureau of Identification and Rocky Manning at www.dallaspaleo.org for removal process.... Spectaculous!!!!! Thanks for your help in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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