Sigillaria Fossils Looking For Species Names

[paleoflor]

Dear Forum,

All six of the following photographs show Sigillaria fossils. But what species? I know there are a couple of lycophyte specialists here on the forum, and any help with identification is much appreciated. All specimens were found in the Westphalian (Upper Carboniferous) of Belgium or the Netherlands. Scale bar = 1 cm (all images).

So far we have:

1 S. mamillaris

2 S.

3 S.

4 S.

5 S. boblayi

6 S. tesselata

Kind regards,

Tim

1 2 3

4 5 6

Edited January 6, 2014 by paleoflor

[truceburner]

I'm of no help here, but nice job on the photography.

[ckmerlin]

Hi Tim some very nice specimens

I think you are right one no 1 being S.mamillaris , although im far from being an expert but I checked them against this nice site that my friend passed on to me a few days ago http://steurh.home.xs4all.nl/engsig/esigsort.html#8a

I hope you find it useful

happy new year to you also

best regards Chris

Edited January 6, 2014 by ckmerlin

[paleoflor]

I'm of no help here, but nice job on the photography.

Thanks

Hi Tim some very nice specimens

I think you are right one no 1 being S.mamillaris , although im far from being an expert but I checked them against this nice site that my friend passed on to me a few days ago http://steurh.home.xs4all.nl/engsig/esigsort.html#8a

I hope you find it useful

happy new year to you also

best regards Chris

Hi Chris,

Best wishes for the New Year! Thank you for your thoughts and also for the link to Hans' website. His is a very useful and nice online resource (plus made by a fellow Dutchman, he-he). I forgot to check it, so your link provides confidence regarding the ID of specimen 1. Meanwhile, on the Fossiel.net forum, I got some more answers thanks to Ziepe. The list now reads.

1: Sigillaria mamillaris Brongniart 1824

2: Sigillaria davreuxii Brongniart 1836

3:

4: Sigillaria scutellata Brongniart 1822

5: Sigillaria boblayi Brongniart 1836

6: Sigillaria tesselata Brongniart 1828

Only specimen 3 remains "species-less", any ideas?

Cheers,

Tim

[ckmerlin]

Thanks

Hi Chris,

Best wishes for the New Year! Thank you for your thoughts and also for the link to Hans' website. His is a very useful and nice online resource (plus made by a fellow Dutchman, he-he). I forgot to check it, so your link provides confidence regarding the ID of specimen 1. Meanwhile, on the Fossiel.net forum, I got some more answers thanks to Ziepe. The list now reads.

1: Sigillaria mamillaris Brongniart 1824

2: Sigillaria davreuxii Brongniart 1836

3:

4: Sigillaria scutellata Brongniart 1822

5: Sigillaria boblayi Brongniart 1836

6: Sigillaria tesselata Brongniart 1828

Only specimen 3 remains "species-less", any ideas?

Cheers,

Tim

My pleasure Tim

As for specimen 3 Im still not able to find anything sorry, maybe Roman may have some ideas Im sure hell take a look soon , In the meantime Ill do some more looking

best regards

Chris

Edited January 6, 2014 by ckmerlin

[paleoflor]

In an attempt to ID specimen 3, I came across an online version of

Weiss (1887): Die Sigillarien der preussischen Steinkohlengebiete. I. Die Gruppe der Favularien.

Perhaps interesting literature for some of you.

[docdutronc]

Dear Forum,

All six of the following photographs show Sigillaria fossils. But what species? I know there are a couple of lycophyte specialists here on the forum, and any help with identification is much appreciated. All specimens were found in the Westphalian (Upper Carboniferous) of Belgium or the Netherlands. Scale bar = 1 cm (all images).

So far we have:

1 S. mamillaris

2 S.

3 S.

4 S.

5 S. boblayi

6 S. tesselata

Kind regards,

Tim

1 P1040261c.JPG 2 P1040269c.JPG 3 P1040273c.JPG

4 P1040281c.JPG 5 P1040287c.JPG 6 P1040297c.JPG

Hi Tim

For me 1 and 4 are the same specie . Sigillaria schlotheimiana or Schlotheimi

3 is Sigillaria mamillaris ,look in Crokall plate .....

Best regards

Bruno

Edited April 21, 2016 by docdutronc

[paleoflor]

Hi Bruno,

Thanks for your feedback and apologies for the delayed reply. I'll check your suggestions in my copy of Crookall when I have the time.

Tim