jcbshark Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 I've had a few things accumulating over the last few hunts that I'm not sure of and would appreciate any input. Thanks in advance looks to be a carnivore toothview 2view 3odd looking piece I hope it's distinct enough to IDview 2little jaw but unfortunately no teethview 2view 3I thought these were just broken ends but they are very similar so it makes me think they are fairly complete and maybe possible to ID. I think they may be a type of periotic possiblyview 2view 3view 4view 5 Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FossilDAWG Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) I'm thinking the "little jaw" is a fish pectoral spine, maybe catfish (Ictaluridae). Don Two to go!With my many appendages, I can pack quite a punch. Combine me with peanut butter and it wouldn't make a very good lunch. What am I? Edited July 31, 2015 by Cris Scavenger hunt contest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted March 19, 2014 Author Share Posted March 19, 2014 I'm thinking the "little jaw" is a fish pectoral spine, maybe catfish (Ictaluridae). Don Thanks Don, it does look like there are cavities for teeth in the "dips" in the bone though but it doesn't show well in the pics. I have many other fish spines and this doesn't look similar to those either. Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 You've got me stumped on these Jeff. I think your ID of the little jaw is correct. It's not a catfish pectoral spine. But your first pic resembles a broken canine tooth from an unknown carnivore. Here's a pectoral spine for reference ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcoSr Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Jeff The two specimens definitely look like Cetacean periotic ear bones. Marco Sr. "Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day." My family fossil website Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros My Extant Shark Jaw Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 The little jaw looks a bit like a lizard maxilla - I can't see if there are actually holes for teeth or not. The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 You've got me stumped on these Jeff. I think your ID of the little jaw is correct. It's not a catfish pectoral spine. But your first pic resembles a broken canine tooth from an unknown carnivore. Here's a pectoral spine for reference 2014-03-18_20-59-14_803.jpg I'm hoping someone can get an ID for that carnivore tooth, it's my first but it is in rough shape Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Jeff The two specimens definitely look like Cetacean periotic ear bones. Marco Sr. Thank you Marco, I thought they may be. Where I'm hunting at I've pulled at least 8-10 periotics out in the last couple trips. Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 The little jaw looks a bit like a lizard maxilla - I can't see if there are actually holes for teeth or not. Thanks Rich, the holes for the teeth look to be oval shaped or sort of like a Tylenol.I'm sure if there were any left in there it could make it easier to ID. Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bones Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Jeff, I don't think Rich saw the photo you posted showing the top view of the jaw. It clearly shows the tooth 'holes'. I bet he could ID it if he saw this photo. It's a neat little jaw bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) I'm hoping someone can get an ID for that carnivore tooth, it's my first but it is in rough shape Since it is so beat up and we can't see the true shape and over profile, size is a huge factor. It's too big to be a Raccoon, opossum, mink, fox, Bobcat. But it is the right size for a Otter, Coyote, Bear cub, even Tapir. I would Google image search those and see if the thickness and what's left of the 'shape' matches with any of those. My guess would be Otter or Coyote. I have both an Otter and Coyote skull at home for reference that i can take a pic of for you if you would like. Edited March 20, 2014 by fossilized6s ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 This looks like sediment that has the impression of an echinoid on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Jeff, I don't think Rich saw the photo you posted showing the top view of the jaw. It clearly shows the tooth 'holes'. I bet he could ID it if he saw this photo. It's a neat little jaw bone. post-7921-0-14943500-1395188035.jpg Thank you Julianna Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Since it is so beat up and we can't see the true shape and over profile, size is a huge factor. It's too big to be a Raccoon, opossum, mink, fox, Bobcat. But it is the right size for a Otter, Coyote, Bear cub, even Tapir. I would Google image search those and see if the thickness and what's left of the 'shape' matches with any of those. My guess would be Otter or Coyote. I have both an Otter and Coyote skull at home for reference that i can take a pic of for you if you would like. Thanks Charlie, I was thinking maybe coyote or small bear sized. If you would I would like the pics for comparison as well Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 This looks like sediment that has the impression of an echinoid on it. echinoid impression.jpg Thank you Al Dente, that never crossed my mind. Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fossilized6s Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Coyote- long, skinny, banana shape Bobcat- straight, triangular shape Otter- very skinny, banana shape Badger- thick, banana shape From this it looks like a big Badger. Soooo it could be a small Bear. I own a very large bear skull, but i dont think it will help, as it's just too big. ~Charlie~ "There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why.....i dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" ~RFK ->Get your Mosasaur print ->How to spot a fake Trilobite ->How to identify a CONCRETION from a DINOSAUR EGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcbshark Posted March 21, 2014 Author Share Posted March 21, 2014 Thanks for the references Charlie! Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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