6ix Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Found in a clay slip after a lot of rain, the slip is under a 100M cliff, that backs onto Dairy farm. (http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/45873-what-better-thing-to-do-over-easter-holiday/) At first thought it was a heavy bovine peice, but after soaking it in water and giving it a brushdown I think its is older.. perhaps whale? The clay also holds flabellum and tusk shells in abundance. For the photos I calabrated the cameras white balance, so the pictures are pretty true to colour with the slightly pink hue. The sandy looking stuff on the left is some sort of mineralisation I think.. Odd pattern.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Mud Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Could this be a Moa femur? It could have been eroded from Pleistocene or Quaternary sediments. Looks like the shaft with the ends removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Here is one from a North Island Giant Moa, in my collection, for comparison: "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 The only thing that worries me on this one is that the break on one side of one of the ends is very straight. The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave pom Allen Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 looks similar to moa bones i have found along beach exposures here in the north island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ix Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Perhaps a maori victim? I thought the holes in the "marrow" would be identifiable mammal vs avaian? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichW9090 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 (edited) Moa are graviportal, very heavy animals - so their bone structure is in some ways less like birds with which you might be familiar. They have a much thicker cortical bone, and the cancelous tissue is dense, unlike the narrow long spicules you see in other modern birds. Edited April 20, 2014 by RichW9090 The plural of "anecdote" is not "evidence". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Mud Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Perhaps a maori victim? I thought the holes in the "marrow" would be identifiable mammal vs avaian? Perhaps you are onto something here? Together with Rich's observation of the straight edge. This could be derived from a Maori coastal midden (trash) deposit. It would be interesting to look for tool marks on the bone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ix Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 I'll be talking to John tomorrow, will see if he knows of any history - looking at Aupex's photos I am sure it's Moa as well.. If it's from a midden it may well be less than 500 years old.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 To me, the squareness of the breaks (in the absence of cut marks) means that the bone was not green when it broke. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Might be speaking the obvious here, but that's not a whale bone. My vote goes for Moa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6ix Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Thanks for adding to the overwhelming majority Boesse - Moa it is!! Looking at the shape of the one from Auspex's collection I can imagine them making pretty useful hammers - would that shear them like that when they eventually failed? I cant Imagine an Haast biting through that much bone so am assuming human interaction and there are no other land predators that could have done it so either erosion artifact or human.. Great fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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