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Shark, Ray, And Fish Micros From The Eocene Of Virginia


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These specimens are from the Eocene of Virginia. I cleaned out my shelves of matrix in my basement several weeks back and came across a trip’s worth of processed matrix that I had collected years ago from an Eocene site in Virginia. I did find a good number of shark, ray, fish and other micros in the matrix. I’m posting the nicer and more unusual micros which I found. If you place your cursor on a JPEG image you will see the file name which will have the specimen id as best that I can determine and the specimen size.

Each matrix that I search makes me more of an avid micro tooth collector. If anyone has or can collect good matrix with shark, ray, and fish micros please send me a PM.

Shark teeth, cartilage, a coprolite and vertebrae

Abdounia:

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Anomotodon:

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Brachycarcharias:

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Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Carcharias:

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Cretolamna:

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Ginglymostoma:

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Hypotodus:

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Odontaspis:

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Physogaleus:

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Premontreia:

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"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Shark cartilage:

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Shark coprolite:

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Shark vertebrae:

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Ray teeth, barb and a dermal element

Archaeomanta:

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Burnhamia:

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Coupatezia:

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Marco Sr.

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"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Hypolophodon:

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Jacquhermania:

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Myliobatis:

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Rhinoptera:

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Ray barb:

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Ray dermal element:

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Fish teeth, jaw and vertebrae

Scomberomorus:

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Trichiurides:

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Fish jaw:

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"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Very nicely done Marco. Great variety and photography. So many cool things from the cartilage to the trichiurides tooth it's hard to find a favorite. :goodjob:

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Great stuff Marco Sr. How does one distinguish between sphyraena barracuda, and Scomberomorus?

 
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Great job as always Marco.

This may sound weird, but i love the nicely shaped coprolites....

~Charlie~

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Wonderful additions to your micro collection Marco!!! Thanks for sharing and fabulous pictures! Does the opposite side of your ray dermal element look the same? Great finds. :)

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Great pics as is your norm Marco, is it pretty rare to find shark cartiledge or is it dependent on location? Great stuff as always, thanks for sharing

Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there!

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Very nicely done Marco. Great variety and photography. So many cool things from the cartilage to the trichiurides tooth it's hard to find a favorite. :goodjob:

Jason

This site had a wide variety of species. I didn't post the snake and turtle specimens that I found in this matrix. I also found a good amount of bird and croc material on other trips.

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Great stuff Marco Sr. How does one distinguish between sphyraena barracuda, and Scomberomorus?

Julianna

Scomberomorus has extant species like the spanish mackerel. Sphyraena teeth are flatter, can be larger, and tend to be more triangular than Scomberomorus teeth.

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Great job as always Marco.

This may sound weird, but i love the nicely shaped coprolites....

Charlie

The spiral valve of the intestine of many lamniforms causes the unique shape of this type of coprolite.

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Wonderful additions to your micro collection Marco!!! Thanks for sharing and fabulous pictures! Does the opposite side of your ray dermal element look the same? Great finds. :)

Lissa

The side of the dermal element in the picture has a pointed projection which extends upward from the surface. The other side is flat.

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Great pics as is your norm Marco, is it pretty rare to find shark cartiledge or is it dependent on location? Great stuff as always, thanks for sharing

Jeff

Shark cartilage is pretty rare from all the locations that I collect from. It is actually rare from this site. In over a hundred trips to this site I had only found 4 or 5 pieces of shark cartilage total in addition to the two pieces from this one trip/batch of matrix.

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Great preservation and variety.

Grüße,

Daniel A. Wöhr aus Südtexas

"To the motivated go the spoils."

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Great preservation and variety.

Dan

There was a narrow lense at this site that had a very high concentration of teeth. Unlike other lag layers where the vast majority of the teeth are reworked, this layer contained mostly pristine specimens.

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Julianna

Scomberomorus has extant species like the spanish mackerel. Sphyraena teeth are flatter, can be larger, and tend to be more triangular than Scomberomorus teeth.

Marco Sr.

Thanks Marco Sr., I will keep that in mind. :)

 
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Lissa

The side of the dermal element in the picture has a pointed projection which extends upward from the surface. The other side is flat.

Marco Sr.

Ok thanks Marco!
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Thanks Marco! :)

Every once in a great while it's not just a big rock down there!

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Thanks for the info sir. You've taught me something new!

~Charlie~

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->How to spot a fake Trilobite
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Great collection!! The wonderful pics with ID's are a great help.

I'm pretty familiar with most of the shark, ray, and fish Eocene species from MD/VA and pretty confident in the ID's. It is a much different story when I get matrix from a different part of the US or outside the US and I'm not familiar with the faunas. A lot of times it can be difficult for me to identify the shark. ray and fish material that I find.

Marco Sr.

"Any day that you can fossil hunt is a great day."

My family fossil website     Some Of My Shark, Ray, Fish And Other Micros     My Extant Shark Jaw Collection

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Marco, how uncommon is the Archaeomanta melonhorsti? Is this tooth also found in the Castle Hayne? Is there any way you can add a few more pics of it from different angles to aide in ID? I do not have this tooth in my collection at all, and am wondering if I may have overlooked it possibly.

As always, your finds are amazing.

BTW, I am hoping to get the matrix I mentioned to you at the festival within the next week or so. I have not had the time to go and collect it yet.

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