Fat Boy Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Thanks, most people think they are. Since im posting my finds is this considered bragging? If anyone takes it like that im sorry i didnt mean for it to be that way. Are you kidding? I look forward to seeing your next trip pics and reports every day. I can't get out as often as most, so it's like I'm out there with you hunting, especially with all of the ground shots too! It's not bragging, it's sharing, big difference. I appreciate it as it seems to me that most do, or would. Keep the reports and pics coming! Kevin Wilson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Are you kidding? I look forward to seeing your next trip pics and reports every day. I can't get out as often as most, so it's like I'm out there with you hunting, especially with all of the ground shots too! It's not bragging, it's sharing, big difference. I appreciate it as it seems to me that most do, or would. Keep the reports and pics coming! I thought you were the guy I met down at the beach, but it was not you obvisiously , I told him about the forum so lets see if he joins he said he was a friend of Ron, he was a really nice guy so I hope he joins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixflood Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 hmm then what could it be? baby croc or something? Maybe turtle? Nice finds Bmore. You're making me want to go back to that spot. When and where's your next trip Bmore? The soul of a Fossil Hunter is one that is seeking, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Maybe turtle? Nice finds Bmore. You're making me want to go back to that spot. When and where's your next trip Bmore? well im thinking thursday or friday and then saturday or sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Maybe turtle? Nice finds Bmore. You're making me want to go back to that spot. When and where's your next trip Bmore? yea im thinking turtle dont know why it is hollow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 ...im thinking turtle dont know why it is hollow There's hollow, and then there's hollow-ollow-ollow. Bird bones are very thin-walled, like a soda straw; a thick-walled hollow bone can come to be when the cancellous (spongy) internal tissue decomposes before it can mineralize. Don't rule anything out just because the bone is hollow. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 There's hollow, and then there's hollow-ollow-ollow.Bird bones are very thin-walled, like a soda straw; a thick-walled hollow bone can come to be when the cancellous (spongy) internal tissue decomposes before it can mineralize. Don't rule anything out just because the bone is hollow. yes this thing has very thin walls like my other bird bones but i guess its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Owens Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 thanks but i dont do it to brag i dont know exactly why i post what i find, i guess its for the good members of the forum so they can gaze upon the beauty of fossils. It's called "Show & Tell" a great thing to do. Sharing is part of the hobby. You keep posting your finds. I know most everybody here loves to see them. Mike -----"Your Texas Connection!"------ Fossils: Windows to the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 thanks Mike its good to know I have another fan haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 yes this thing has very thin walls like my other bird bones but i guess its not. Is the interior exposed? From the picture, I thought it was entire. Can you do some end views? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Is the interior exposed? From the picture, I thought it was entire. Can you do some end views? well there is a hole in the side. Ill get some better pictures with the scanner tonight Im really good with it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 what do you think about this, you can see the hole at the bottom left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 what do you think about this, you can see the hole at the bottom left Well, I can maybe see that there is a hole, but I can't judge the wall thickness of the bone. There's enough erosion of the articulation surfaces to have removed salient details, so I'll have to stick with the jizz. The only bone on a bird that looks anything like it is a phalanx, and the only bird phalanx that approaches the L x W ratio of this one is #1 of digit 3. Going back to the original pic, it looks like this bone is 1 3/16" long, so this would be a HUGE flightless terrestrial bird. This is from an Eocene marine deposit, so it is either from a Diatryma-class "terror bird" that got washed out to sea, or it's not from a bird. I think it's a long-shot, but you should probably get someone at the Smithsonian to look at it, just to be sure it's not the former. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Well, I can maybe see that there is a hole, but I can't judge the wall thickness of the bone. There's enough erosion of the articulation surfaces to have removed salient details, so I'll have to stick with the jizz.The only bone on a bird that looks anything like it is a phalanx, and the only bird phalanx that approaches the L x W ratio of this one is #1 of digit 3. Going back to the original pic, it looks like this bone is 1 3/16" long, so this would be a HUGE flightless terrestrial bird. This is from an Eocene marine deposit, so it is either from a Diatryma-class "terror bird" that got washed out to sea, or it's not from a bird. I think it's a long-shot, but you should probably get someone at the Smithsonian to look at it, just to be sure it's not the former. are you talking about the bone that I found being 1 3/16" long? The bone I found is under 1/2" long, the reason im having trouble getting a good picture of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 here i got you a true end view where you can see the thin wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 are you talking about the bone that I found being 1 3/16" long? The bone I found is under 1/2" long, the reason im having trouble getting a good picture of it Ah, I misread your scale! All along, I thought it was twice as big as it is "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 yea i just measured it at 5/8" long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Ah, I misread your scale! All along, I thought it was twice as big as it is so does that change anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 here i got you a true end view where you can see the thin wall Now we're getting somewhere! My best guess? Bird, phalanx #1, digit 3, genus/species indeterminate, apx. size of a large duck/small goose (2-4 lbs), likely a seabird by depositional habitat (assuming it was found in matrix, not as float). See if you can get Storrs Olson at the Smithsonian to look at it; species have been erected on less. Nice going! "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 Now we're getting somewhere! My best guess?Bird, phalanx #1, digit 3, genus/species indeterminate, apx. size of a large duck/small goose (2-4 lbs), likely a seabird by depositional habitat (assuming it was found in matrix, not as float). See if you can get Storrs Olson at the Smithsonian to look at it; species have been erected on less. Nice going! k thanks, so a large duck or goose cool. So should I email him or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 ...so a large duck or goose... SIZE OF lg. duck/sm. goose; I can't narrow it down any more than that. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 SIZE OF lg. duck/sm. goose; I can't narrow it down any more than that. lol ok now if one bmorefossil was trying to have Storrs Olson how would he do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 now if one bmorefossil was trying to have Storrs Olson how would he do it? Send good pics, along with all the specific info pertaining to the specimen (don't leave anything to be guessed at, but be brief). Then, be patient. Email to: olsons@si.edu "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 12, 2009 Share Posted February 12, 2009 so i guess better than the ones i already have, hmm lets hope for the best, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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