SoreBack Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hello Folks, This came out of formation in a NJ Eocene/Miocene stream and I think it's a croc tooth but I don't have enough experience with these teeth to be positive. Thanks in Advance, Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyrannosaurusRex Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Yep that's crocodile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Very Cool! Thanks T Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyrannosaurusRex Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Happy to help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Can you shoot it looking down the crown? I know there's no Cretaceous there but this looks a lot more like a mosasaur tooth to me than a croc. I have found Tertiary teeth in the Cretaceous brooks of NJ and wouldn't at all be surprised if sloppy collectors had also done the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) Hi Carl, I'll take a photo tonight. My wife found a large Carcharias cuspidata in Ramanessin Brook so I understand the frustration of sloppy or intentional contamination. This did come from formation though, not from stream gravels. Steve Edited September 17, 2014 by SoreBack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I'm ready to be proven wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hi Carl, Here's a shot from the top down. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpevahouse Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Crocodile remains are found in late Cretaceous deposits in NJ, usually South Jersey. Looks like a crocodile tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 This tooth came out of a location that doesn't have any known cretaceous deposits, just Eocene and Miocene. I have seen other crocodilian teeth from the location but they are more elongate and came from stream gravel so they are more worn than this tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non-remanié Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) out of the contact lag? same area we have been discussing? thats the only spot where i could imagine it getting iron stained and yet being found in formation. it could also be a squalodon crown. i was going with Croc at first but after looking at my few squalodon crowns, im not so sure. although i am also not so sure about some of mine. Edited September 18, 2014 by non-remanié ---Wie Wasser schleift den Stein, wir steigen und fallen--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Same area. A very nice Peccary crown came from the same 10 square feet the same day as this tooth. I thought it might be whale too but I have so little experience with them I was hesitant to call it squalodon. I do have two worn mammal roots from gravel downstream of where this was found. I also have a definite whale crown fragment from the lag deposit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Here is the whale tooth fragment that came from the same area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpevahouse Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Could you post a photo of the peccary tooth. Peccary is an animal with little or no documented finds in NJ. Peccary and domestic pig molars are very similar. Same area. A very nice Peccary crown came from the same 10 square feet the same day as this tooth. I thought it might be whale too but I have so little experience with them I was hesitant to call it squalodon. I do have two worn mammal roots from gravel downstream of where this was found. I also have a definite whale crown fragment from the lag deposit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) This is the only photo I have available right now. I can take more tonight. It's approximately .75" Edited September 18, 2014 by SoreBack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Gorgeous stuff, there. I can't actually say croc, mosasaur (I know Cret doesn't outcrop there, but as I said above...), or whale. Whatever it winds up being, it's very cool. And that peccary tooth is just fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
non-remanié Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Carl, the area that you picked that perfect posterior chub off my spoil pile last year ---Wie Wasser schleift den Stein, wir steigen und fallen--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) Thanks Carl. My wife and I started in Big Brook in 2009 with spaghetti strainers. We both fell in love with the hobby and have met some really nice people and found some "way cool" stuff! Our collection is paltry when compared to the collections of at least a couple people we know. Edited September 18, 2014 by SoreBack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Carl, the area that you picked that perfect posterior chub off my spoil pile last year I should've dug just a little bit longer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Thanks Carl. My wife and I started in Big Brook in 2009 with spaghetti strainers. We both fell in love with the hobby and have met some really nice people and found some "way cool" stuff! Our collection is paltry to at least a couple people we know. Every collection started out small. And every large collection started out with that passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpevahouse Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 That sure looks like a peccary molar, lower jaw! Another rare find to show Dr Parris. There were two common species of peccary, Mylohyus and Platygonus. Mylohyus had rounded low crests, Platygonus has high sharpe crests which look like miniature mastodon teeth. Yours looks like Mylohyus. Here's a link to the site where I got this info: http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/natsci/vertpaleo/resources/fossil_id/art_id.htm This is the only photo I have available right now. I can take more tonight. It's approximately .75" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Thank you for the link. It's definitely helpful. I'll try to get some profile pics done. Unexpected company sidetracked me last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 Here is a profile of the peccary tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpevahouse Posted September 20, 2014 Share Posted September 20, 2014 (edited) Your horse and peccary bones are particularly rare post glacial NJ finds. You mention finding other bones in the vicinity. Could you post photos? In what area of the state were the bones found? Edited September 20, 2014 by jpevahouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoreBack Posted September 20, 2014 Author Share Posted September 20, 2014 This bone came from the same southern Monmouth County stream that we found the horse astragalus and tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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