Rusty-White Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I found this in a road cut near Kansas City in what I think is Pennsylvanian limestone. I have only recently begun collecting fossils so I don't know enough to give more details. The brighter white spots left of center, right of center, and along the right edge are some scuffing. Any help you can give is appreciated. Thanks, Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Welcome to the forum. I am not the right person to yes or no but I'll say I certainly would have taken it out to ask someone. Do you know what other material has been found at that site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty-White Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Thanks for the welcome and the comment. I have found brachiopods of a variety of sizes, perhaps some bivalves, fenestrate bryozoans, and crynoid stems at the site. In addition, I have found quite a few limestone concretions there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullsnake Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Definitely Pennsylvanian. To me it looks like either ichnofossil (tracks/burrow), or possibly root molds. The black stuff adjacent to the markings appear to be a modern lichen or fungus. Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmaier Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 (edited) You can tell this object was not laid down during the sedimentation of the layers because the veins of it continue on to the edge of the slab and then start to crawl off into other layers. If it were a plant fossil it would be trapped in a layer, but this one just keeps going. It could be a burrow, but I think it was created after the layers had hardened, it is likely a modern root that has crept between the layers, and then that attracted dirt and modern lichens and mold. In short... not a fossil. Edited September 21, 2014 by tmaier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty-White Posted September 21, 2014 Author Share Posted September 21, 2014 Thanks to each of you for your input. I plan to hang on to the specimen with the hope of having someone look at it in person. Having examined it again more closely myself, the veins do seem to be a feature of the thin layer of lichen (I think) that covers the surface of the rock, and this inclines me toward the explanation given by tmaier. I'm enjoying the learning process. Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 I do not believe it is a fossil. "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence"_ Carl Sagen No trees were killed in this posting......however, many innocent electrons were diverted from where they originally intended to go. " I think, therefore I collect fossils." _ Me "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."__S. Holmes "can't we all just get along?" Jack Nicholson from Mars Attacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paleoflor Posted September 22, 2014 Share Posted September 22, 2014 You can tell this object was not laid down during the sedimentation of the layers because the veins of it continue on to the edge of the slab and then start to crawl off into other layers. If it were a plant fossil it would be trapped in a layer, but this one just keeps going. It could be a burrow, but I think it was created after the layers had hardened, it is likely a modern root that has crept between the layers, and then that attracted dirt and modern lichens and mold. In short... not a fossil. While I agree with your conclusion that this is probably not a (typical) plant fossil, I'd be cautious arriving there by the argument that plant fossils cannot span multiple sedimentary layers. From lycophyte stumps and calamite stems in growth-position, to small compound fronds buried in mud, all can puncture sedimentary layering to some degree. Especially if these are roots, as proposed above somewhere, I would not be surprised to see "plant bioturbation" involving several sedimentary levels. Searching for green in the dark grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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