Plantguy Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Here's some more fragmentary stuff that I'm wondering if anything more can be gleaned from them. Several of the photos were just posted in Jeff's latest Florida group trip thread. Some leg/foot? component of what? I've seen this shape before but is it shell or osteoderm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) And then there is possible this bird find...could be a non-fossil... Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. Regards, Chris Edited November 24, 2014 by Plantguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Yup... on the bird bone. Tibiotarsus, I think. I will let others correct me. The second one is a skull piece from a crocodilian (croc or allig)... frontal bone, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) The first is a camel unciform. The second fossil appears to be a plastral element from a soft-shell turtle, Apalone ferox. Edited November 24, 2014 by Harry Pristis http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cris Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I'm calling alligator squamosal on the second item. A lot of those alligator/croc skull bones can be hard to ID. THIS is a fantastic resource to help ID the ones you find. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Your tibiotarsus compares closely to Mallard, though possibly on the small side (I scaled id as +/- 78mm?). It is from a duck, in any case, and if prehistoric, it wouldn't be Mallard in Florida, but another Anas sp. such as Mottled Duck. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I'll go with the squamosal on the alligator/croc bone. That is a great resource, Cris. The Iordansky pub which they show on that web site has been my go to source for croc skull pieces. Harry, the second shot of the bone shows definite skull articulation lines on the bottom side of the 'prong' of this bone. Soft shell plastrons don't have this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I'll go with the squamosal on the alligator/croc bone. That is a great resource, Cris. The Iordansky pub which they show on that web site has been my go to source for croc skull pieces. Harry, the second shot of the bone shows definite skull articulation lines on the bottom side of the 'prong' of this bone. Soft shell plastrons don't have this. Yes, I did notice the suture on the internal side of the bone, jpc . . . it did give me pause. But, because I don't have a complete Apalone plastron at hand, I had to rely on other similarities. I am not convinced that this is a gator squamosal. For comparison: http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 So a camel, turtle or alligator/croc and a duck. I think there might be a joke there somewhere with that grouping. thanks all! For what it's worth here's an attempt at a side view of the turtle/alligator/croc piece. Not sure if that helps at all. Thanks again! Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 So a camel, turtle or alligator/croc and a duck. I think there might be a joke there somewhere with that grouping. thanks all! For what it's worth here's an attempt at a side view of the turtle/alligator/croc piece. Not sure if that helps at all. 20141124_204929_resized.jpg Thanks again! Regards, Chris Whoops! Not Apalone. Looks like 'gator squamosal . . . I knew that, uh-huuh! http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plantguy Posted November 25, 2014 Author Share Posted November 25, 2014 Whoops! Not Apalone. Looks like 'gator squamosal . . . I knew that, uh-huuh! Thanks Harry, I sure didn't and got alot out of this thread! Regards, Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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