Frank Menser Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Found this (Not a Phosphate nodule-just heavy p. replacement) very polished scute at Aurora. I thought at first it might be crocodilian but it lacks the raised center and on closer examination has the round center and radiating structure like the Glyptodont scutes I have. It is .50" thick, smooth and flat on the bottom and 2" across. I have seen another Glyp scute from there, so I know they do occur at Aurora. Be true to the reality you create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Found this (Not a Phosphate nodule-just heavy p. replacement) very polished scute at Aurora. I thought at first it might be crocodilian but it lacks the raised center and on closer examination has the round center and radiating structure like the Glyptodont scutes I have. It is .50" thick, smooth and flat on the bottom and 2" across. I have seen another Glyp scute from there, so I know they do occur at Aurora. Glyptodonts are a Late Pliocene-Pleistocene arrival in North America. Do any of the exposures at Aurora fit that time-frame? Here are some glyptodont osteoderms for comparison with your find. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 that is an oddball, what did it look like before you polished it, harry i dont think glyptodonts have been found but there have been other things so you never know. Hey can you flip it over so i can see the other side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Looks like a vert symphyseal ("cookie")? "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Menser Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 I cannot put a layer for this one as it turned up at the museum in their gravel dump. nor did I polish this it is as found. Be true to the reality you create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbstedman Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I cannot put a layer for this one as it turned up at the museum in their gravel dump. nor did I polish this it is as found. The reject pile in front of the museum is typically Pungo River formation material which makes it mid-Miocene. Besides fossils, I collect roadcuts, Stream beds, Winter beaches: Places of pilgrimage. Jasper Burns, Fossil Dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Looks like a vert symphyseal ("cookie")? yea thats what it looks like to me if the other side looks right thats what im going with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I cannot put a layer for this one as it turned up at the museum in their gravel dump. nor did I polish this it is as found. well you said polished in your first post lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Menser Posted February 28, 2009 Author Share Posted February 28, 2009 here is a vert symph (partial) from the same site. Be true to the reality you create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixflood Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 here is a vert symph (partial) from the same site. Very interesting. My opinion is a phosphate nodule that looks an awful lot like a vert, but I could be wrong. It looks like it has too much wear to come out of lee creek. The soul of a Fossil Hunter is one that is seeking, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixflood Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 But it would be cool if it was! I was wondering what other rare fossils come out of Lee Creek? I know a few but perhaps another thread should be started for this. I know that sometimes you can find amber there. The soul of a Fossil Hunter is one that is seeking, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Menser Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 This definitely came out of Lee Creek. I find a lot of small bones, teeth and shells that are Phosphate replaced-especially in Greenville. And yes, you can find some nice Amber at Aurora, though it is very hard to tell from the phospate nodules that can be very similar in color. Be true to the reality you create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixflood Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 This definitely came out of Lee Creek. I find a lot of small bones, teeth and shells that are Phosphate replaced-especially in Greenville. And yes, you can find some nice Amber at Aurora, though it is very hard to tell from the phospate nodules that can be very similar in color. Oh, I don't doubt it came out of Lee Creek. I just think it wouldn't have all that wear if it was fossilized, but I coulbe be wrong. I just haven't seen too many worn fossil come out of that mine. Really? So it's not like the one one the top of the screen wear the picks change for the fossil-forum? Covered in a white outer layer? I'll have to keep my eyes out for that. I might want to bring a light source to shine though the rocks Just to check The soul of a Fossil Hunter is one that is seeking, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Menser Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 White outer layer? Not sure what you mean there. I do love hunting the Museum dump because so many people are just focused on teth they throw other goodies to the side (like verts) where they are easy to find. The black scute was just sitting on top in plain sight Be true to the reality you create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixflood Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 White outer layer? Not sure what you mean there. I do love hunting the Museum dump because so many people are just focused on teth they throw other goodies to the side (like verts) where they are easy to find. The black scute was just sitting on top in plain sight Yeah it's a nice spot. I take a sifter Let me try to explain what I meant better, look up at where it says "The Fossil Forum" in very big letters at the top of this webpage. There should be a bunch or fossils picture that will rotate every now-and-again. One of these is a piece of amber with a white outside. I think it's from Lee Creek but I am not sure. The soul of a Fossil Hunter is one that is seeking, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Menser Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 Yeah it's a nice spot. I take a sifter Let me try to explain what I meant better, look up at where it says "The Fossil Forum" in very big letters at the top of this webpage. There should be a bunch or fossils picture that will rotate every now-and-again. One of these is a piece of amber with a white outside. I think it's from Lee Creek but I am not sure. Maybe I should look at the top of the page more often.... Be true to the reality you create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 ...So it's not like the one one the top of the screen wear the picks change for the fossil-forum? Covered in a white outer layer? Are you talking amber? I don't see it. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 boy it sure does look a whole lot like a cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Are you talking amber? I don't see it. i think he was talking about the clam with the crystals in it thats the only thing i can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenixflood Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 i think he was talking about the clam with the crystals in it thats the only thing i can think of. This: I always thought this was amber Maybe I am wrong? The soul of a Fossil Hunter is one that is seeking, always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest N.AL.hunter Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 That's is a clam shell with crystals in it.... not amber. Probably from Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 That's is a clam shell with crystals in it.... not amber. Probably from Florida. Ruck's Pit. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boesse Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I put my vote in for 'cookie'. It is far too 'normal' looking to be a phosphate nodule, IMHO. In the Mio-Pliocene of CA, we get black, heavily phosphatized chunks of bone abraded into bone pebbles frequently, and I find specimens like that all the time. I shouldn't expect that to be too odd for Lee Creek, especially given the abundant phosphate deposits (which often require conditions that cause multiple reworking events to happen). Bobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bmorefossil Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I put my vote in for 'cookie'. It is far too 'normal' looking to be a phosphate nodule, IMHO. In the Mio-Pliocene of CA, we get black, heavily phosphatized chunks of bone abraded into bone pebbles frequently, and I find specimens like that all the time. I shouldn't expect that to be too odd for Lee Creek, especially given the abundant phosphate deposits (which often require conditions that cause multiple reworking events to happen).Bobby cool i didnt know you find many black phosphatized bones in Cal. here in Maryland you dont find many, well at least to the point at which this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Menser Posted March 1, 2009 Author Share Posted March 1, 2009 Pretty much a 'truism' in Florida (especially in the South) if it's black-pick it up. Everything from fish verts, ray parts, small bones to shark teeth are preserved that way. Here's a sloth tooth collected in the Green Mill Run, NC. Be true to the reality you create. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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