Jump to content

Cretaceous Fish Scale Id


mdpaulhus

Recommended Posts

Can any one help with identification of a fish scale. This one is from the Mowry shale (middle cretaceous, cenomanian) just south of Billings Montana. This is the largest one I found at 1.75" wide and 1.5" tall (large for any of today's fish).

post-1294-1236817897_thumb.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That's a big ol' guitar pick; great find!

(I'll watch for the ID...)

"There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant

“Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley

>Paleontology is an evolving science.

>May your wonders never cease!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thats pretty cool, not sure what species it is but i bet you could sell it on E-bay as a early hominid finger print and get a pretty penny for it ^_^

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Mowry Shale has many exposures throughout Montana, Wyoming, Utah, etc....similar aged formations continue up into here in Alberta. The scale is a bony fish, some type of teleost....your scale looks a lot like a suborder that was common in the Cenomian, the 'Protacanthopterygii'. When we find Cretaceous fish scales they are usually either the ganoid scales of Garpike (Lepistsoteus) or the concentric scales (like yours) of Protacanthopterygii. Lepistosteus up here are usually found loose (throughout the Campanian and Maastrichtian) and those of Protacanthopterygii are 'usually' in split shale matrix from earlier Cretaceous Deposits.

I doubt if there is any way of identifying the scale to a family level. Or, if it is, it would have an element of educated guessing.

Value of this post: 2 cents. Years of experience that make an answer sound good even though it may be all baloney.

  • I found this Informative 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

The scale looks like a cycloid scale...so narrow down the search to cretaceous fish in montanaish area with cycloid scales...

Maybe Apsopelix, Enchodus, Cimolichthys?

  • I found this Informative 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 6 years later...

Even though the part with the ctenii is broken off at the bottom, from the non-overlapped area at the top, I'd say it's ctenoid rather than the simpler (and less common) cycloid bony fish scale. The hard, inflexible, enamel-covered, diamond-shaped ganiod scales of fish like gars look entirely different. The Mowry's famous for its fish scales, but most never get specifically identified.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 years later...

I recently found a fossil fish scale very similar to the one you found. It was found in the Mowry Shale in the Bighorn Basin near Sheep Mountain in Wyoming. Mine is approximately 1.5" wide by about 2.5" tall. I was participating in a geology field camp class and thus had access to a friend of my professors who is considered a fossil expert. He cannot positively identify the fossil but told me that the fish scale is most probably from a fish in the family Ichthyodectidae, which are known to have lived from the Jurassic to the Late Cretaceous and had members of the family that grew up to 5 meters in length. However, my scale was more ovate shaped and less round. If I had to guess, I would guess Xiphactinus.

Edited by IH8Bentonite
Additional Info
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...