fangirl0708 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Hello everyone!!! Williamrock and I were finally able to go to Peace River in Florida this weekend with some of our friends, we had an absolute amazing time and found a ton of teeth and other awesome pieces. We were hoping to get some help with a few finds. We think the tooth is a deer tooth, we were just hoping for a confirmation and maybe a type. The other piece we aren't sure if it's a piece of shell or what. there are other pieces and mammal teeth we are curious about as well but i haven't been able to take pictures of those yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangirl0708 Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Unknown mammal tooth? Possible tooth? or just a chunk of bone? Unknown tooth piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggieCie Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Great finds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangirl0708 Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The tooth in the first images appears to be a bovid (cow or bison) lower, third premolar (p3). 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Agree with Harry on #1; definitely turtle shell on #2: on #3 look at this image: http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/gallery/image/17899-woolly-mammoth-molar-poland/Now if one of those tiny end roots were to break off and get some river wear, it might look a lot like your #3 -- Yes, it is a mammal tooth fragment, but not necessarily the part you were thinking. #4 looks like bone, and #5 may be a gator or croc tooth fragment, or maybe not. SS The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Dente Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Your possible tooth? or just a chunk of bone? from post #3 looks to be a claw core. I don't know what animal it is from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangirl0708 Posted July 2, 2015 Author Share Posted July 2, 2015 Thank you everyone for your help!! I Will take some more pics if needed to help with id. The possible gator/croc tooth is really skinny and long, does that possibly change the id? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bones Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Thank you everyone for your help!! I Will take some more pics if needed to help with id. The possible gator/croc tooth is really skinny and long, does that possibly change the id? Could that be a really big barracuda tooth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 (edited) "unknown tooth piece?" is clearly broken. A photo of the inside might help. It is a long shot, but I was thinking it might be a fragment of this type of tooth.. Edited July 2, 2015 by Shellseeker The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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digit Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Could that be a really big barracuda tooth? That's the initial pattern-match impression I got but it is way too seriously big for a barracuda tooth (even on steroids). I'd certainly give up diving if 'cudas reached this size. Since both sides of the item were shown it is obviously rather 2-dimensional and not a frag of a gator tooth (the other obvious go-to identification). I think I have to agree with Al Dente that I'm leaning toward some sort of claw core as the only conceivable explanation for a bone fragment of this shape. Pretty cool find. Cheers. -Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 20150702_072441.jpeg 20150702_072501.jpg Not gator. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old bones Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 That's the initial pattern-match impression I got but it is way too seriously big for a barracuda tooth (even on steroids). I'd certainly give up diving if 'cudas reached this size. Cheers. -Ken Haha no kidding that would be a big fish with "nasty, big, pointy teeth!" I have clearly spent way too much time in micros! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangirl0708 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 hmmm ok... we are still doing some research on the tooth fragment with no luck so far but i was hoping to maybe get a little help with IDing these two pieces we found as well. I am curious about this chunk of bone. at first i thought it was a chunk of possible rib but after further inspection, doubts are raising in my mind. It curves at the end and there is a small hole in the bone that i haven't seen in other rib pieces... any idea's? Also, does anyone have an idea of what kind of jaw bone this is? is there a chance it is modern? I just to say thank you to everyone who takes time out of their day to respond to everyone on this amazing forum!!! I know WilliamRock and i would not have been able to ID almost all of our finds without the help of everyone on here!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 The jaw appears to be from a 'gator . . . a 'gator maxilla. And, yes, it could be modern. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangirl0708 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 The jaw appears to be from a 'gator . . . a 'gator maxilla. And, yes, it could be modern. I think you may be right. I found this image on google...do you think it may be this piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I cannot tell you which part of a maxilla you have. Here's one in my collection: http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangirl0708 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 I cannot tell you which part of a maxilla you have. Here's one in my collection: gator_max_teeth.JPG Wow!!! yours is beautiful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 I have some tortoise shell that has a similar pre-fossilization hole. We thought that mine may have been done by an alligator. I am partying today, but worried that our hobby may be disappearing under the onslaught of the rainy season. Time to get inventive. The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangirl0708 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 I have some tortoise shell that has a similar pre-fossilization hole. We thought that mine may have been done by an alligator. I am partying today, but worried that our hobby may be disappearing under the onslaught of the rainy season. Time to get inventive. ZolfoJuly4th.png Thank you for posting that chart! we were actually thinking of taking the kids back down there in a week or so but it seems like it's better if we dont! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shellseeker Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Here is the link for Zolfo.. You can always check before you go... http://waterdata.usgs.gov/usa/nwis/uv?site_no=02295637 The White Queen ".... in her youth she could believe "six impossible things before breakfast" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangirl0708 Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 hmmm ok... we are still doing some research on the tooth fragment with no luck so far but i was hoping to maybe get a little help with IDing these two pieces we found as well. I am curious about this chunk of bone. at first i thought it was a chunk of possible rib but after further inspection, doubts are raising in my mind. It curves at the end and there is a small hole in the bone that i haven't seen in other rib pieces... any idea's? IMG_20150703_182803.jpg IMG_20150703_182839.jpg IMG_20150703_183110.jpg IMG_20150703_183227.jpg Also, does anyone have an idea of what kind of jaw bone this is? is there a chance it is modern? IMG_20150703_183442.jpg IMG_20150703_183523.jpg IMG_20150703_183624.jpg I just to say thank you to everyone who takes time out of their day to respond to everyone on this amazing forum!!! I know WilliamRock and i would not have been able to ID almost all of our finds without the help of everyone on here!!! by chance does anyone have any ideas of that this large chunk of bone is? it's still stumping us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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