howard_l Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Someone posted a picture on the Fossil Forum Facebook page of what appears to be a heteromorph Cephalopod that was given to them from the Decatur, TX area. There has been quite a bit of discussion on the picture. I wanted to see what the main group thought? Howard_L http://triloman.wix.com/kentucky-fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshunter Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Need more close up pictures, what is the scale? ----Tom Grow Old Kicking And Screaming !!"Don't Tread On Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_l Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 There was no scale and the original poster was not involved in the posts after the original. Howard_L http://triloman.wix.com/kentucky-fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Frankly, it looks carved to me.. click to enlarge "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 The image definitely looks odd but without the original poster participating it will be pure speculation. It's also telling that the original poster did not become involved in the Facebook discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_l Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 He just commented that it was found in a creek after heavy rain washed it out. Howard_L http://triloman.wix.com/kentucky-fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_l Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 He did say it was 4 inches at it's widest, sorry. Howard_L http://triloman.wix.com/kentucky-fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Can he take some additional closeup photos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 He did say it was 4 inches at it's widest, sorry. I assume that means the purported ammonite, not the matrix. Look at the pattern and weathering of the matrix surface; I am ever more convinced that this is a fabrication. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobWill Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 (edited) Looks carved to resemble a huge Ideohamites fremonti which I have found 10 miles north of Decatur, but they made the ribs too far apart and I agree with Auspex about the matrix. It would have been preserved perpendicular to the layers of sediment. Edited July 27, 2015 by BobWill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howard_l Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 I am on the page with you guys that's why I brought it here, he said he would try to get additional pictures, we will see. Howard_L http://triloman.wix.com/kentucky-fossils Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 I also think it looks a bit off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitra zonata Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 false fossil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Would you want to explain why you think that it is a false fossil please? So that everybody learns to recognize them Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitra zonata Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Hi all, You can see simply this https://www.google.it/search?q=heteromorph+false&hl=it&gbv=2&biw=1293&bih=898&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMItp_79K_VxwIVwt9yCh2tdQc4#hl=it&tbm=isch&q=heteromorph+ammonites you can try using UV light if you are not sure. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foshunter Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Would you want to explain why you think that it is a false fossil please? So that everybody learns to recognize them Coco Coco False fossil means not real, fake, man made, phony Tom Grow Old Kicking And Screaming !!"Don't Tread On Me" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Hey Tom Coco False fossil means not real, fake, man made, phony Tom I think Coco wants to know WHY You think it is fake. Tony Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitra zonata Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 It's not easy explain it I have see many fake fossils Morocco. Moroccans falsify them better. They are great artists regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Hi, Hey Tom Don't I think Coco wants to know WHY You think it is fake. Tony You are right ! I just wanted to draw the attention on the fact that to say that " it is about a false fossil" is not constructive if we don't have explanation or to know why ! don't hold it against me ! Coco ---------------------- OUTIL POUR MESURER VOS FOSSILES : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 1 (Poissons et sélaciens récents & fossiles) : ici Ma bibliothèque PDF 2 (Animaux vivants - sans poissons ni sélaciens) : ici Mâchoires sélaciennes récentes : ici Hétérodontiques et sélaciens : ici Oeufs sélaciens récents : ici Otolithes de poissons récents ! ici Un Greg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I have been unable to find an image of an ammonite that does not have at least one fairly tight coil in the beginning. This deficiency reinforces my impression that this is a fabrication, and a fanciful one at that. "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guguita2104 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Yes, I agree with Auspex.I already researched to find answers but I can't find a specimen that match completely...Lets wait for other ammonite experts opinion, like Ludwigia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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