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Cretaceous Fish Jaw With Teeth


Harry Pristis

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Here's a fish jaw I brought back from Morocco a long time ago. I didn't give it much attention until recently. I tried exposing a little more of the teeth in the resistant matrix (no fabrication with this matrix piece).

I think the jaw belongs to Stephanodus lybicus Brychaetus muelleri, a ray-finned fish. Can someone here confirm this identification as reasonable? I may want to put the image in my TFF album, but don't want Google to pick it up with a dicey identification.

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A very interesting and neat piece, Harry. Sorry I can't help with an ID, thanks for sharing.

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I think you're right, non-remanie. The stub at Wikipedia talks about Brychaetus as a freshwater fish; but, I see that this fish is found at the Fisher/Sullivan site (Nanjemoy Fm., Eocene, Virginia) so the species is at minimum estuarine. That accommodates my specimen from Morocco.

Thank you for pointing out this better identification.

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I have mostly seen Brychaetus in early Eocene, Ypresian marine deposits; NJ, Md, Va, NC, UK as well as Morocco where its much more common, of course. It seems to be a very rare faunal element everywhere it occurs. The deposits it occurs in don't have a tremendous amount of riverine or estaurine faunal input, but I suppose freshwater might be a possibility and a reason for its scarcity. The matrix seems to match Moroccan Eocene phosphates (Otodus producing horizons) as well, so thats a good bet. Great specimen!

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Stephanodus lybicus teeth are different than yours in the specimen and are misidentified by some sellers so appears in Google searches. I think Brychaetus muelleri could be a good ID. Here are some pictures: fosilpaleos.com post-17588-0-51402300-1439660963_thumb.gifpost-17588-0-15094400-1439660973_thumb.gif

or sheppeyfossils.com http://www.sheppeyfossils.com/pages/Brychetus.htm

Also, here is a document which may help (or not) : Ridewoodichthys, a new genus for Brychaetus caheni from the marine Paleocene of Cabinda (Africa): re-description and comments on its relationships within the Osteoglossidae (Teleostei, Osteoglossomorpha) - Taverne, L http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB0QFjAAahUKEwjTt-n70KvHAhWEWRQKHWvwBKc&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vliz.be%2Fimisdocs%2Fpublications%2F240392.pdf&ei=fHnPVdOJGISzUevgk7gK&usg=AFQjCNFM7D7jYm64VBwJWNmgwJU_nlartQ&bvm=bv.99804247,d.bGQ

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I agree with non-remanie.Nice specimen indeed! Probably from a lower Ypresian bead.

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