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Mahantango Fossil ID (5)


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More fossil ID's please!

Found at Seven Stars location.

Devonian I presume.

1 & 2 are of some sort of ball or spherical rock/fossil?

Front & back.

More to come.

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Pics 5 & 6

Okay, so I want to mention this looks like a footprint but I won't. .. wait, I already did. lol.

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Pic 7 & 8.

I feel pretty sure this is a trilobite thorax but wanted confirmation.

Included a pic of the matrix back.

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Just a guess for 1-4,7-8 may be coiled trilobites like Dipleuras?

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Howdy,

I'm by no means an expert in invert identification, but I know the local Mahantango is lousy with siderite concretions. I don't see much complexity along the fracture of the spheroid in image 2, so I'd hazard a guess that those are geological rather than fossil.

As for the "footprint" in 5 and 6, I see crinoid remains. Specifically, either the empty mold of crinoid columns or possibly arms where the columnals have weathered out. Crinoid columnals, much like siderite nodules, are also fairly common in the local Mahantango.

Again, I'm no expert, but that's what I see.

Cheers,

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I agree with Sifrel, and I think 3 and 4 may be a pelecypod

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The track could be a weathered internal mold of a brachiopod.

It would be helpful to include something to show the scale of the pieces.

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M2R,

I agree with the others -

1) Concretion - but the bottom area intrigues me -

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I have seen a concretion like this from the Mahantango that had a fossil in it. (Greenops Trilobite)

Might be worth splitting it to see.

3) Internal mold of a pelecypod. Mud filled the shell, and the shell disloved away. The crease or curved line at the bottom reminds me of

Paleoneilo sp.

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5) Devonian is too early for Tridactyl footprints. I agree with possible crinoid imprints, possibly of the holdfast or some other part of a crinoid.

Sometimes, the preservation detail is lacking in the Mahantango Formation fossils.

7) Looks like a Dipleura dekayi thorax to me as well.

Keep them coming. :)

Regards,

EDIT: Hmmm. The more I look at it, the more # 5 looks like Rockwood said - maybe a brachipod internal mold. Can we see the back and sides of this item?

I see what appear to be indications of shell material in the bottoms of the imprints. :unsure:

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...and for 3-4 I thought it is a Dipleura dekayi cephalon... :Dpost-17588-0-61183300-1447451387_thumb.jpg

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Thanks everyone. Thank you for sharing your knowledge & opinions, I appreciate each and every one of you!

TIM - Here are more pics of #5 as requested.

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M2R,

Thanks for the additional pictures.

I am still having trouble getting a bead on this one, but I am leaning more towards brachiopod internal mold.

The item appears a bit too spherical (Pic 2 in 1st set of new pics.) to consider much else. :unsure:

It is also possible that the strange "footprint" shape was pressed into the shell at some point.

Weird. :wacko::zzzzscratchchin:

Thanks again for the pics.

Regards,

Regards,

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M2R,

I agree with the others -

1) Concretion - but the bottom area intrigues me -

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I have seen a concretion like this from the Mahantango that had a fossil in it. (Greenops Trilobite)

Might be worth splitting it to see.

I have noticed that many of the concretions (especially the really spheroidal ones) in the Montour Preserve Fossil Pit contain good fossils - an area that is also from the Mahantango Formation. It is probably worth your time to try and collect concretions and split them if you ever find them in the Mahantango. In my concretions, I have found large lingulid brachiopods, trilobites, some weird mystery stuff, and also some cool minerals like chalcopyrite and calcite. They were all rather well preserved, occasionally better than the fossils in the surrounding rock.

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I think #5 is a brachiopod mold. Compare mystery object #5 with Schizophoria internal molds:

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Thanks Fossildude19, PA Fossil Finder & others! Your responses prompted me to do a Google search on brachiopod internal mold & Schizophoria internal mold and I found a pic of an internal mold with the "footprint" but it wouldn't let me paste it here. I'm going with Schizophoria mold........

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