thez_yo Posted February 9, 2016 Share Posted February 9, 2016 Last year, I was hoping to find some friends to go out to the Marble Mountains and/or possibly one of the U-dig type sites in Utah in the summer because I love Cambrian critters. Plenty said 'that sounds cool, but can't go sorry' because of funds or other plans, or they just aren't really that into fossils, so I'm thinking I may just go by myself early this year. I want to find me some Trilobites! I'm thinking a long weekend somewhere between late March and mid-April. Is anyone else planning a similar trip then? Maybe we could meet up. I don't have any field experience yet, but there's only one way to fix that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trilobite tim Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Hi, I don't think I will make it out this year. But I have lots of info on the area around the House Range. Lots of places to collect out there! Let me know if you need info. If you search the House range on this site you will find lots of posts. Please remember this area is pretty "out back" and you need to be prepared and careful driving/walking. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 And that part of UT gets really hot in the summer months... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thez_yo Posted February 11, 2016 Author Share Posted February 11, 2016 Thanks! I'll get back to that offer for House Range after the weekend.. I've decided to go up to the Marble Mountains this weekend. I have time, and might as well get that newbie do-it-all-wrong experience out of the way now before hitting Utah in a few months. I have small garden tools/gloves/buckets already (plant hobby), so I think I'm going to hit Home Depot to buy a masonry sledge and/or similar before going and see how I do with everything the first time around. If I find something good, because they have that 1 trilo/day limit, I can hit it again on the way up to Utah assuming I drive. I'm excited :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thez_yo Posted February 15, 2016 Author Share Posted February 15, 2016 Ok, I went! The good: -5hr workout in the form of climbing mountains in the Mojave. -The drive out and back is nice from San Diego. (salt flats) -The tools and gear I brought worked out well! These forum post was my guide for tools. I got the Estwings, a small pry bar, some Dacor chisels, and a big brush for rock-things. Otherwise, eye protection, hiking boots with good insoles, a good hat and scarf to keep the sun off, a whistle, compass, and a couple other incidentals (chapstick. Oh so important in a desert!) http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/60352-just-getting-started/?p=644237 and http://www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/44892-new-to-fossil-hunting-what-gear-to-have/?p=486649 -I found some nice rocks, too. Maybe I'll get them tumbled. The bad: -No clue which mountain top(s) were the right ones. -In fact, no clue what we were doing at all (I managed to get a friend in on this folly) including how to get to the mountains. Needles BLM map still doesn't elucidate the dirt roads towards the mountains so we sort of wing'd that. Here's the BLM page http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/needles/rock.html -and of course, didn't find any fossils. These rocks were interesting though.. what is it? What I learned! -When people recommend a guide who is familiar with the dig sites, there's a good reason. -The small gardening tools I brought were useless unless I planned on digging underneath all the rock chips covering the mountains from all the collecting over the years. I'd want a regular big shovel for that though, because there are literally TONS of chipped rock all over. -Chug some water before setting out. -Obnoxious neon pink backpack is the way to go -Put knee pads on at the start of the hunt, not after you've already bruised at least one knee (lol). Once the Utah sites open up in about a month, I'll head out there. I think to the paid places at least until I figure out what/how/where. Regardless, this was still a great trip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auspex Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 Just the kind of place I gravitate to "There has been an alarming increase in the number of things I know nothing about." - Ashleigh Ellwood Brilliant “Try to learn something about everything and everything about something.” - Thomas Henry Huxley >Paleontology is an evolving science. >May your wonders never cease! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trilobite tim Posted February 18, 2016 Share Posted February 18, 2016 Great pictures! Terrain is just about what you will see in the House Range. The more time you spend researching (internet mostly) the closer you will be to the "right spot". But I have spent plenty of time walking/driving around, trying to find the fossils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fossildude19 Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I always say that they call it fossil hunting for a reason. If it was fossil finding, everyone would do it! Great pictures. You will find the right spot eventually, and that will be a great payoff for your hard work. Regards, Tim - VETERAN SHALE SPLITTER VFOTM --- APRIL - 2015 __________________________________________________ "In every walk with nature one receives far more than he seeks." John Muir ~ ~ ~ ~ ><))))( *> About Me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thez_yo Posted March 22, 2016 Author Share Posted March 22, 2016 Ok, I think I'm going to go up to the U-Dig site over a long weekend of April 1st - 3rd and drive up and back. I'm wondering if anyone had good advice on hotels in Delta, or wherever is closest? I'm going to spend the night someplace around Vegas Thursday night March 31st, and plan to spend the 1st and 2nd April somewhere around dig sites in Utah and drive back down to Sandy Eggo the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhw Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 I've made 2 or 3 trips up to the Marble Mountains/Latham Shale. It is not the easiest spot to find! I heard of a few different outcrops around that area, but here's where we have always gone. Can't really give you good directions other than say take the dirt road to your left around Cadiz! I'm sure someones got GPS coordinates, but we never did. You kind of get in as far as you can by car (4WD better) and hike in. The site runs on a diagonal up the side of the mountain. If you find the right spot you can usually do pretty well just surface collecting, and kind of picking through the loose shale that is everywhere around there. Whole ones are harder to find (but there!) Very well preserved cephalons, spines and such are almost a guarantee. That is, IF you're in the right spot! Good luck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thez_yo Posted March 24, 2016 Author Share Posted March 24, 2016 Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagebrush Steve Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I know everybody seems to go to the Marble Mountains in the Mojave Desert for trilobite hunting, but according to the geologic map for Needles, California, there are also some Cambrian marine outcrops in the nearby Ship Mountains. Has anyone tried looking there? Here's a snip from the geologic map. The town (hamlet!) of Cadiz is at the left, and the Marble Mountains are just northeast of it. The Ship Mountains are due east. The Cambrian marine outcrops are the orange hatched regions marked with what looks like an epsilon or a C with a line through it. I'm thinking of checking it out either on the way over or back from the Tuscon show in February. I'm fairly familiar with the area, I've driven the dirt roads there many times but never to look for fossils. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thez_yo Posted March 19, 2017 Author Share Posted March 19, 2017 Ok, I guess a year late, but I've just booked a hotel for Utah for the weekend of April 15/16. I kept trying to find buddies to go with me, but apparently hitting a pile of rocks with a hammer out in the burning sun isn't everybody's cup of tea? Just hitting the mountain like I did here in California, I'm too much of a newbie to find anything. So, I think I'm going to hit U-Dig for at least half a day, and figure out my head from my tail there if someone rubs my nose directly in the payload... If anyone's in the area that weekend, maybe we can meet up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagebrush Steve Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I would love to go but my wife is recovering from some major surgery and I won't be going anywhere for a while. U-dig fossils is a good place to go, you are certain to find fossils and they supply tools. It has been several years since I was there and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Not sure what the weather will be like in April, I was there in June. Good luck and let us know how you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Keep in mind also that if you do go past and beyond u-dig, the productive layers will likely look different than what younwill se in the quarry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 the picture just above your selfie with pink pack looks like stromatolites or stromatoporoids. Perhaps we can get some experts for a more positive ID Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagebrush Steve Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 26 minutes ago, Plax said: the picture just above your selfie with pink pack looks like stromatolites or stromatoporoids. Perhaps we can get some experts for a more positive ID I believe they are a blue-green algae called Girvanella. Here is a snip from this link that looks similar. If she was here she would have been very close to the trilobites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 so; would the structure be identified as a stromatolite? Or perhaps algal colony/mat? Those are as interesting as an Olenellid cephalon to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagebrush Steve Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, Plax said: so; would the structure be identified as a stromatolite? Or perhaps algal colony/mat? Those are as interesting as an Olenellid cephalon to me From what I've read, Girvanella is an oncoid, which is similar to a stromatolite but is roughly spherical in shape rather than forming a column. But I've also seen an oncoid defined as a spherical stromatolite so perhaps someone with more expertise can clarify. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darktooth Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Good luck on your trip @thez_yo. I like Trilo-butts and I cannot lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrian Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I'd love to go but I have no one to babysit my 84 year-old Mom! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- John I had a friend once, but the wheels fell off. Sad, very sad. - Nightwing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plax Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 18 hours ago, Sagebrush Steve said: From what I've read, Girvanella is an oncoid, which is similar to a stromatolite but is roughly spherical in shape rather than forming a column. But I've also seen an oncoid defined as a spherical stromatolite so perhaps someone with more expertise can clarify. thanks for the education Steve! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thez_yo Posted April 3, 2017 Author Share Posted April 3, 2017 Thanks guys, T minus 2 weeks to go and I'm excited! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBrian Posted April 3, 2017 Share Posted April 3, 2017 As the song says, "the waiting is the hardest part"! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- John I had a friend once, but the wheels fell off. Sad, very sad. - Nightwing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thez_yo Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 I'm back and the trip was great! I got in my car Thursday night for a long weekend, and drove halfway there from SoCal (to Primm, just across the NV border). Friday morning I did the other half of the drive including through Las Vegas (yuck) And then finally hit the open country Utah! Checked into my hotel in Fillmore, got my gear together And headed out towards Delta Just before the right turn... YAY! Seeing Marjum Pass written on a sign was pretty unreal The last couple miles are a little rough. I only fishtailed once... Finally, after 2 years of planning on it I got there! Let the digging begin.. So I got there about 3:30pm Friday, went until the ~6pm closing time, and then did all day long Saturday from ~9:30AM until they wanted to pack it up after 6PM. I definitely found some nice stuff, including the view coming back down the mountain: They said it was 7,000ft above sea level there, and as a resident of near-sea-level it was pretty rough going. Bringing my chunks of rock up to the booth because they're wonderful and polish up your trilobites for you with a dremel a bit, I was completely out of breath and needed to take a seat for a bit. I'm *so* sore all over still, but it was definitely worth it, and it was good exercise anyway. Pro tip- put a couple of your water bottles in the fridge/freezer the night before to stick behind your back in your car seat on the drive back out, and one or two to hold in your hands. Boy do I wish I could eat NSAIDs. ...to be continued... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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