PrehistoricFlorida Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 anybody know what this is from? thanks... www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cris Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 It's almost got the ball and socket look of a reptile vert, but it looks way too big for a reptile around here.... I'm sure you can tell, I'm clueless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pool Man Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I'd say its a large Gator or Croc vert. It looks very similar to what I've been calling a gator vert, but yours is more complete and twice as big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatorman Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 That would be one massive Gator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 It's not gator. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Owens Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 It's not gator. Ah, the "bet ya can't guess what it is" game. Ok, I'll start --- Did it have tusks or horns? -----"Your Texas Connection!"------ Fossils: Windows to the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted January 13, 2008 Author Share Posted January 13, 2008 I don't know, personally my guess would be Bison antiquus. All I know is that gator is way off, this is a mammal vert. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosasaur Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I agree that it looks a lot like bison but I cannot guess which species. Kenenth Quinn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OreRockOn Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Agreed, Bison antiquus, here is one from McMinnville, OR: http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/27092...027535758sSGNzF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Owens Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 Ah, bison. So, horns was the answer. -----"Your Texas Connection!"------ Fossils: Windows to the past Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted January 14, 2008 Share Posted January 14, 2008 I'd say its a large Gator or Croc vert. It looks very similar to what I've been calling a gator vert, but yours is more complete and twice as big Cris' instinct was good. Pool Man deserves a golden kudo. I think it IS a crocodilian vertebra, no doubt from a 'gator. Why were you so confident, auriculatus, that this vertebra is from a mammal?? -----Harry Pristis http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Look at the size. It would be from a 30'+ gator. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cris Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Yeah, that's the one thing that bothers me... The size.... If it was half that size, I'd say gator without much doubt..... But...... You know, Worthy has found a croc tooth in the Santa Fe before........... Is that where this vert is from? If there's the occasional croc tooth, there's gotta be the occasional vert, too. Crocs got much bigger than gators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrehistoricFlorida Posted January 15, 2008 Author Share Posted January 15, 2008 Yes, it's from the Santa Fe. Look up Bison antiquus cervical vertebra. You'll see that that's what both mine and Harry's are. www.PrehistoricFlorida.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted January 15, 2008 Share Posted January 15, 2008 Yes, it's from the Santa Fe.Look up Bison antiquus cervical vertebra. You'll see that that's what both mine and Harry's are. They DO resemble the cervical vertebra of Bison bison illustrated in Frank Kocsis' book. Since Frank's vertebra is from Nebraska, it is certainly likely to be what he claims. As I look closer at my vertebra, it is apparent that it did have a robust neural spine which I don't think that 'gators have. Sorry, Pool Man, no golden kudo for you. There are three bison species reported from Florida: Bison bison, Bison latifrons, and Bison antiquus. In Florida, you would need cranial elements (skull, horn core) to distinguish between these species. The correct identification of the vertebrae can only be Bison sp. The crocodile you might encounter in Northcentral Florida is Gavialosuchus americanus, at maximum size, not appreciably bigger than a large 'gator. G. americanus was a fish-eater with a narrow snout and spikey teeth. Post-cranial bones are difficult to distinguish from 'gator bones. Live and learn! -------Harry Pristis http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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