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Insect Wings From St. Clair!

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While going through some of the stuff I found at St. Clair last week, I came across a couple of pieces I picked up thinking they were large Neuropteris leaves. A closer look revealed a different kind of veination more akin to an insect wing than a leaf. I am flat out flabbergasted! I'd heard of insects being found in Carboniferous strata but never expected to find some myself. I could be wrong (just read through some of my arguments with Solius :P ) but I think my instinct is correct.

Positive and Negative of wing

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Closer view of the second pic

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worthy 55

Very cool. B)B)B):D

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mommabetts

Cool

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Nicholas

How big, just curious they are very nice.

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barefootgirl

That is probably the coolest thing Ive seen on here in a while. :drool: Congrats on the find you lucky dog!

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shorty

Wow! Those are very cool!

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Xiphactinus

If you want something named after you, donate that to a museum. When I found a Pennsylvanian wing similar to yours, I was told they are so rare that they are almost always a new species. The one I found was!

Cool find!!!!

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Frank Menser

Nice wing. Bet your wanting to go back and see if you can find the rest of the critter... ;)

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shorty

Maybe your wings fell off this little guy!

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;)

Palaeodictyopterida from Mazon Creek, pit 11. about 2.5 inches long

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Shamalama

I'm not sure what they fell off of, but they sure are neat! I looked all through my pieces to see if any others were found. I'm a little surprised there isn't some part of the body preserved too. Maybe something caught the bug and ate the body but the wings fell off during consumption.

Xiphactinus: That is not a bad idea about donating to a museum. :) I will have to think about that.

Nicholas: the wing has a length of 38mm and is 10mm at the widest point narrowing down to 3.5mm.

Thanks for the comments guys, I still can't believe that I found them. B)

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Shamalama
Whatever it is, it sure makes for an interesting fossil. Maybe this website can help: http://www.windsofkansas.com/fossil_insects.html

Wow, neat site! I can see that the wing drawings they have look very similar to what I found so maybe it's from a dragonfly. the more I look at it I think I see a couple of pieces of other wings nearby.

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ebrocklds
Wow, neat site! I can see that the wing drawings they have look very similar to what I found so maybe it's from a dragonfly. the more I look at it I think I see a couple of pieces of other wings nearby.

Not technically a dragonfly. look at Paleodictyoptera and Megasecoptera. they are both carboniferous winged insect groups. i found a complete megasecopteran from a very old strata, late mississippian. after a few years of research i believe it to be the oldest wings found to date. it is very likely there are older ones because they are fairly complex veination with many cross veins.

either way very cool find. i would love to hear what you do with it and where it end up.

Brock

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Xiphactinus
I'm not sure what they fell off of, but they sure are neat! I looked all through my pieces to see if any others were found. I'm a little surprised there isn't some part of the body preserved too. Maybe something caught the bug and ate the body but the wings fell off during consumption.

Xiphactinus: That is not a bad idea about donating to a museum. :) I will have to think about that.

Nicholas: the wing has a length of 38mm and is 10mm at the widest point narrowing down to 3.5mm.

Thanks for the comments guys, I still can't believe that I found them. B)

The wing I found is briefly mentioned at the bottom of this page:

http://www.windsofkansas.com/other_beds.ht...(Pennsylvanian)

It's now in the collections of the Univ of Kansas.

I got to correspond with Frank Carpenter of Harvard, the fossil insect guy of the world before he passed. Kind of cool to know he described the fossil I found and named it after me.

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shorty
The wing I found is briefly mentioned at the bottom of this page:

http://www.windsofkansas.com/other_beds.ht...(Pennsylvanian)

It's now in the collections of the Univ of Kansas.

I got to correspond with Frank Carpenter of Harvard, the fossil insect guy of the world before he passed. Kind of cool to know he described the fossil I found and named it after me.

That's very cool! Congratulations!

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Shamalama
The wing I found is briefly mentioned at the bottom of this page:

http://www.windsofkansas.com/other_beds.ht...(Pennsylvanian)

It's now in the collections of the Univ of Kansas.

I got to correspond with Frank Carpenter of Harvard, the fossil insect guy of the world before he passed. Kind of cool to know he described the fossil I found and named it after me.

Very cool indeed!

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Terry Dactyll

Beautiful fossils........ have you noticed any other 'critter' material contained within the shales?

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Guest N.AL.hunter

Really nice finds!

Remember it isn't classy to name something after yourself, so if you have found something new, I will not object to it being named after me :)

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jonnyquest

Hey, is that a leg right at the base of the wing? You could name it the Shamalama Wing Wong.

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kurtdog

Man that's no leaf! For the benefit of us novices, Shamalama, what "media" is that?

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Shamalama

Jonny: I am not sure if it's a carbonized leg, I didn't want to say it was and be wrong.

Kurtdog: It's preserved in a fine grained, black shale that splits pretty easily.

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Fat Boy
Jonny: I am not sure if it's a carbonized leg, I didn't want to say it was and be wrong.

Kurtdog: It's preserved in a fine grained, black shale that splits pretty easily.

Very cool stuff Shamalama!

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kurtdog
Very cool stuff Shamalama!

Ditto! Take good care of that! :cool:

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Redlichia

It's a very good and an important find,compliments Shamalama! if you have find these,is probabe that they are again in the same section of the layers,try again in the same position,I hope for you for a big luck ;)

Cheers,

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Auspex

Shamalama's got a hot rockhammer!!!

Congratulations X10!!!

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