whowat13 Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 I was told that these were from Morocco, but am not able to match them up with anything from there. It seems to not be calcite, but quartz in it. Grid is 0.25 inch scale. Any help will be greatly appreciated! As far as I can tell, they are real (not fake)... -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guguita2104 Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Cool ammonite ! The only think that I could assure is that your specimen belong to Ammonitida order (you can see it on flower-shaped sutures). However, try to compare with Atlas Mountain ammonites. Regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) The more common Moroccan ammonites are Cleoniceras or Schloenbachia, but I'm not at all sure about that with this one...wait a minute! Are those 2 different ammonites? What throws me is the form of the septa on the one on the left compared with the sutures on the one on the right. The one on the left would then be a goniatite. If I am correct in my assumption, then please post photos of the reverse sides of each. Edited March 31, 2016 by Ludwigia Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyssunder Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 I agree with Roger, they looks to be different species. Maybe they're from Madagascar rather than from Morocco. I'm going with Desmoceras for the left one. " We are not separate and independent entities, but like links in a chain, and we could not by any means be what we are without those who went before us and showed us the way. " Thomas Mann My Library Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowat13 Posted March 31, 2016 Author Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Sorry... This is two views, but the same specimen... I will go look at the Atlas Mountain Ammonites, though. I do have more than one of these... -Bill Edited April 1, 2016 by whowat13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowat13 Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 These are my other 3... The one at the top left is about 1.5x thicker than the other 3 (including the one already pictured). I will have to add the other view of these to another reply... -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowat13 Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 The other view... -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpc Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 I have found that with ammonites that have calcite infillings such as these (we get them quite often in WY), there is too much calcite on the insides to see the actual sutures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrangellian Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 The more common Moroccan ammonites are Cleoniceras or Schloenbachia, but I'm not at all sure about that with this one...wait a minute! Are those 2 different ammonites? What throws me is the form of the septa on the one on the left compared with the sutures on the one on the right. The one on the left would then be a goniatite. If I am correct in my assumption, then please post photos of the reverse sides of each. I think the chamber walls in any ammonite/goniatite/etc are a simple curve in the middle but get more convoluted as you go toward the outer wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwigia Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 Sorry... This is two views, but the same specimen... Hmm. I've learned something new today, and that is that outside appearances don't always show what's on the inside... Greetings from the Lake of Constance. Roger http://www.steinkern.de/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andreas Posted April 1, 2016 Share Posted April 1, 2016 For me the ammonoid looks cretaceous in time. Maybe Pseudotissotia or Vasoceras. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowat13 Posted April 1, 2016 Author Share Posted April 1, 2016 For me the ammonoid looks cretaceous in time. Maybe Pseudotissotia or Vasoceras. Thank you all for your help. I just looked at images on google, and I think it is a Thomasites pseudotissotia... I also saw that some are found in Nigeria. -Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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