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We don't assess values on TFF. ;)

The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true.  -  JJ

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I don't mean the value, I mean like is it worth keeping. I want to know if the fish is real.

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The fish looks real with some fin argumentation, looks like it may be Lebanese. Not much value just a display item.

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The fish is actually a Chinese fish, called Lycoptera davidi.

More images here.

It is real, however, it is not a great specimen.

They often have that yellowish or orangeish hue to them - I don't believe this to be augmented.

The "lizard" is a fanciful creation, carved into the stone and painted.

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As Fossildude19 said it is a Lycoptera davidi. It is from the Late Jurassic-Early Cretaceous and is very common in Liaoning, China. It is a fresh water fish and was preserved due to burial by volcanic ash. If you are considering buying it, don't pay a high price for it. But if you have it already, then it is a real fossil you can enjoy :)

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I know the lizard is fake, but I think the fish is real... Is it worth anything?

Can you try to describe the technique how they faked the lizard - would be very interesting to know. Is it a just painted-on or are the "bones" somehow elevated and carved out?

I saw so many of them in the internet, but could never get my hands on one of them (without buying one).

Thanks

Daniel

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Can you try to describe the technique how they faked the lizard - would be very interesting to know. Is it a just painted-on or are the "bones" somehow elevated and carved out?

I saw so many of them in the internet, but could never get my hands on one of them (without buying one).

Thanks

Daniel

Daniel,

To me, on this one, it appears that they have carved out or engraved just the area of the head and vertebrae.

Then they painted in the bones.

In some of the others I have seen, it appears that they actually try to carve out or engrave the stone around the "individual bones".

Tricky. <_<

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If you look at the rear right foot of the lizard, there is what might be a vertebra segment. I think the carved in lizard was to accent that little piece.

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You can buy those Chinese fossil fish very inexpensively on ebay and some other places. Some have paint applied though, you will need to look carefully at the one you want.

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