southland_mike Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Hello, new to the world of fossils and would appreciate any help with identification or even if it's possible to id with just one example? I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 What is the general location of where it was found? The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southland_mike Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Found yesterday in the sulphur river basin west of Ladonia TX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigHyatt Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) I don't see a fossil. Is it the entire item? If embedded in the item, can you point out the fossil itself? I do see a weird sort of texture. Not sure if it's organic or geological. Edited July 25, 2016 by CraigHyatt Info: Craig Hyatt, retired software/electrical engineer Experience: Beginner, fossil hunting less than a year Location: Eagle Pass, TX USA on the border with Mexico, hot dry desert Formation: Escondido, Marine, Upper Cretaceous Materials: Sandstone, Mudstone, Shale, Chert, Chalk Typical: Thalassinoides, Sphenodiscus, Exogyra, Inoceramus Reference: http://txfossils.com/Txfossils.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 Welcome to TFF! It may be a bone fragment, but I am leaning more towards it being a concretion. Tony Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southland_mike Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's hard to tell by the pic but it has a lot of processes, a flat scapula area, possible foramen and articulating sites. I have just enough bioarchaeology experience to know its a bone. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigHyatt Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) It's hard to tell by the pic but it has a lot of processes, a flat scapula area, possible foramen and articulating sites. I have just enough bioarchaeology experience to know its a bone. Thanks for the help. So, what bone(s) would this specimen correspond to on a human? I know a scapula is a shoulder blade, foramen is a hole for a nerve bundle, and articulating site would be some sort of joint or flex point.I think a clear, hires shot of the chipped areas showing the internal structure might help experts confirm it's a fossil bone. I assume you don't think it's a cast of a bone. Edited July 25, 2016 by CraigHyatt Info: Craig Hyatt, retired software/electrical engineer Experience: Beginner, fossil hunting less than a year Location: Eagle Pass, TX USA on the border with Mexico, hot dry desert Formation: Escondido, Marine, Upper Cretaceous Materials: Sandstone, Mudstone, Shale, Chert, Chalk Typical: Thalassinoides, Sphenodiscus, Exogyra, Inoceramus Reference: http://txfossils.com/Txfossils.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southland_mike Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Reminds me of the joints of a turtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigHyatt Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Reminds me of the joints of a turtle.OK. On a human scapula, there's a notch, but no foramen per se. I don't think there's a foramen on a turtle scapula. It looks a lot simpler than the human version to me. What turtle bone (or process) is the closest match to your specimen, do you think?http://campus.murraystate.edu/academic/faculty/tderting/anatomyatlas/turtappenskelamy-becky.html Edited July 25, 2016 by CraigHyatt Info: Craig Hyatt, retired software/electrical engineer Experience: Beginner, fossil hunting less than a year Location: Eagle Pass, TX USA on the border with Mexico, hot dry desert Formation: Escondido, Marine, Upper Cretaceous Materials: Sandstone, Mudstone, Shale, Chert, Chalk Typical: Thalassinoides, Sphenodiscus, Exogyra, Inoceramus Reference: http://txfossils.com/Txfossils.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southland_mike Posted July 25, 2016 Author Share Posted July 25, 2016 Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigHyatt Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 (edited) Hope this helps. Can you point out the anatomical features you mentioned, e.g. scapula, foramen, articulating sites? I suppose you could stick little bits of white tape with numbers or something. Edited July 25, 2016 by CraigHyatt Info: Craig Hyatt, retired software/electrical engineer Experience: Beginner, fossil hunting less than a year Location: Eagle Pass, TX USA on the border with Mexico, hot dry desert Formation: Escondido, Marine, Upper Cretaceous Materials: Sandstone, Mudstone, Shale, Chert, Chalk Typical: Thalassinoides, Sphenodiscus, Exogyra, Inoceramus Reference: http://txfossils.com/Txfossils.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 The texture of this piece does not look like bone, it does resemble the worn down surface of a concretion. Tony Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Based on these photos, this piece doesn't appear to be bone, or a fossil. Maybe sharper images could provide a different conclusion. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southland_mike Posted July 26, 2016 Author Share Posted July 26, 2016 Found a mosasaur vertebrae online with the same weird coloring and pattern from the same location, sulphur river. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I don't think this is a bone . . . I think it's geological. 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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