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So I've been trying to do some research on the fossil flora/fauna of the Parachute Creek member of the Green River formation and so far I can only find the following reference mentioned as representing any kind of significant effort to catalogue the fossils: "The Eocene Green River flora of northwestern Colorado and northeastern Utah, HD MacGinitie - 1969 - University of California Press".

The problem is, it is out of print and not even listed on the U of C Press site. I found a copy available from a book seller but I'm not sure if it's worth the money to buy it sight unseen. I already have plenty of other books like that already on my shelves.

There is a database of sorts that the Denver Museum of Nature and Science has online, but I'll be darned if I can figure out how to work it.

Any other suggestions?

-Dave

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Here is a link to a pdf file of Lance Grande's book on Green River fish and more. I recommend it. It's free.

wsgs-1984-b-63.pdf

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Lance has his newest book the "Lost world of Fossil Lake" which is fantastic.

If you search GSA publications under his name he has several special bulletins focusing more on certain genus and species.

His work will focus more on fauna in southwestern Wyoming seeing as that is where he spends most of his digging time!

Hope that helps!

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Here is a link to a pdf file of Lance Grande's book on Green River fish and more. I recommend it. It's free.

wsgs-1984-b-63.pdf

Thanks Snolly. I do have that volume in my library already and it is a really good read.

-Dave

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Lance has his newest book the "Lost world of Fossil Lake" which is fantastic.

If you search GSA publications under his name he has several special bulletins focusing more on certain genus and species.

His work will focus more on fauna in southwestern Wyoming seeing as that is where he spends most of his digging time!

Hope that helps!

That book is on my wish list already! I'll have to look into the GSA archives a bit more, thanks!

-Dave

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If I'm going to drive safely, I can't do geology. - John McPhee

Check out my Blog for more fossils I've found: http://viewsofthemahantango.blogspot.com/

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Thanks Scott! That is a nice surprise! :)

-Dave

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Lance's book is great, but it is only marginally helpful for the Parachute Creek member,which is what is collected at Bonanza and Douglas Pass. Back when Kirk Johnson was in charge at the Denver Museum, they published (maybe only as xeroxed pages) a handbook to give their volunteers when they did digs at Bonanza. Maybe contact them (from the contact us link on the DMNS website in your original post) and ask if it is available.

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Thanks JP. I will be visiting that museum on Tuesday and hunting Douglas Pass the following week after a visit to Kemmerer. I'll see if I can talk to someone when I am there about that handbook.

-Dave

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If I'm going to drive safely, I can't do geology. - John McPhee

Check out my Blog for more fossils I've found: http://viewsofthemahantango.blogspot.com/

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Posting some links that may be helpful for others.

University of California Museum of Paleontology has a page with some insect families identified: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/tertiary/eoc/greenbugs.html and some plants too: http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/tertiary/eoc/greenplants.html

A page from Paleocurrents.com that shows some of the fossils they found during a 2002 excavation near Bonanza, UT: http://www.paleocurrents.com/bonanza_2002/img/2002_10_15fossils/HTML/index.htm

A page from the Smithsonian site that has a link to a slideshow of hundreds of fossil insects, some of which are identified to the Order level. If nothing else, a nice series of pictures to sort through and see the variation of insect forms found in the Parachute Creek member of the Green River formation: http://paleobiology.si.edu/greenRiver/

Another slideshow from the University of Colorado: http://fossilinsects.colorado.edu/image-gallery/green-river-insects-university-of-colorado/

A page from the Virtual Fossil Museum website with some labelled plant fossils: http://www.fossilmuseum.net/Fossil_Galleries/GreenRiverFossils.htm

-Dave

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If I'm going to drive safely, I can't do geology. - John McPhee

Check out my Blog for more fossils I've found: http://viewsofthemahantango.blogspot.com/

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Thanks JP. I will be visiting that museum on Tuesday and hunting Douglas Pass the following week after a visit to Kemmerer. I'll see if I can talk to someone when I am there about that handbook.

I think it was put together by Russ Graham when he was at the DMNS, but he is now at Penn State... in your neck of the woods.

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Thanks for the links Don. :)

-Dave

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Geologists on the whole are inconsistent drivers. When a roadcut presents itself, they tend to lurch and weave. To them, the roadcut is a portal, a fragment of a regional story, a proscenium arch that leads their imaginations into the earth and through the surrounding terrain. - John McPhee

If I'm going to drive safely, I can't do geology. - John McPhee

Check out my Blog for more fossils I've found: http://viewsofthemahantango.blogspot.com/

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