wildchild33 Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Hello everyone, my first time here and have high hopes someone can point me in the right direction with these bones. (first 2 pics) All were found within 20 ft each other,dinosaur? Next pic is what looks like teeth or part of shell, and possibly a scute? Then close up of what seems more like cartilage, fish jaw? Dorsal? All came from a D/FW creek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anchiornis Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 The grooved bone in the second picture is either a horse or a bovid tooth. Welcome to the Fossil Forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphactinus Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Looks like you found a deer skeleton. Those are deer bones and a deer tooth. Can you take a better photo of the dark item in your hand? That looks interesting and I can't tell what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildchild33 Posted August 17, 2016 Author Share Posted August 17, 2016 Ok here is a few more of dark object. Thanks for the replies what a bummer it's only a deer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigHyatt Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Ok here is a few more of dark object. Thanks for the replies what a bummer it's only a deer! Still blurry. Back off about a foot. Info: Craig Hyatt, retired software/electrical engineer Experience: Beginner, fossil hunting less than a year Location: Eagle Pass, TX USA on the border with Mexico, hot dry desert Formation: Escondido, Marine, Upper Cretaceous Materials: Sandstone, Mudstone, Shale, Chert, Chalk Typical: Thalassinoides, Sphenodiscus, Exogyra, Inoceramus Reference: http://txfossils.com/Txfossils.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) The dark, fluted or spikey thing is still a puzzle. I don't see a deer tooth. I do see a bovid (cow or bison) third lower molar (m3). I also see a deer(?) calcaneum along with a deer(?) proximal phalanx. I think I see a bovid medial phalanx, as well. Edited August 17, 2016 by Harry Pristis 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphactinus Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Harry is the expert with the teeth. I hereby withdraw my vote for deer tooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 Harry is the expert with the teeth. I hereby withdraw my vote for deer tooth. I based my guess on the pillars on the labial side of the tooth PLUS the size of that tooth next to the butane lighter in the middle image. http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphactinus Posted August 17, 2016 Share Posted August 17, 2016 I based my guess on the pillars on the labial side of the tooth PLUS the size of that tooth next to the butane lighter in the middle image. Now that you call out the lighter...that would have been one BIG deer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildchild33 Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 Ok agree with the proximal phlange and calcanea, I identified one as an astragalus, still not sure about the broken one or the tiny rib? bone. Is the round one a patella or vertebrea? Sorry my camera isn't that great, heres a few more, I'm leaning toward some sort of vertebrea. Due to the isolation of the stylid I think the tooth is bison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphactinus Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Wildchild - try moving a little farther away from what you are shooting. Set them down on the table and then move the camera back and forth until the fossil is in focus. In several of your photos the background is in perfect focus, but the fossil closer to the camera is blurry. It's going to be impossible to ID those finds without better pix. I am VERY curious about the spiky thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildchild33 Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 Will try again later, I tried moving further away but then you can't see any details, of which I can see in these pics. Camera phone is lousy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 If your camera is not adequate, try using your scanner. Reasonably good images can be produced with some scanners. For the benefit of some newbies who will read this thread, please note the spelling here: "phalanx," plural is "phalanges." "vertebra," plural is "vertebrae." "calcaneum," plural is "calcanea." 1 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildchild33 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 If this doesn't do it I will mail the thing to you! I don't have a scanner, nor computer and this is the best I can do. Thanks for corrections note taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildchild33 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Ran accross a Pleistocene catfish spine that looked very similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Pristis Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 My best guess is that this is what is left of a sacrum, perhaps a deer sacrum, after the lateral processes have been removed. In other words, the central body of the sacrum. Here's an example from the internet of a deer sacrum: 2 http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page What seest thou else In the dark backward and abysm of time? ---Shakespeare, The Tempest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildchild33 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 You are the more knowledgeable and probably right, however from my point of view it is much more simalar to these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiphactinus Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I agree with the center of a sacrum. Those echinoid spines are MUCH smaller. Your fossil is definitely bone. You can tell from the broken ends. It's most definitely part of a sacrum. What animal is a little more difficult to determine. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildchild33 Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Appreciate your help! Wanted to get your opinion on a construction site I stopped by today, I collected whatever looked interesting. There was ALOT of shale, wondering if you can tell if it would be worth digging around. Not sure about these rocks, guessing iron stained quartz, mica , calcite ? In the other pile the white & black sheets are not quartz, not calcite,? Is the holey rock coral? Edited August 22, 2016 by wildchild33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildchild33 Posted August 21, 2016 Author Share Posted August 21, 2016 (edited) Pics cont. Edited August 22, 2016 by wildchild33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildchild33 Posted August 22, 2016 Author Share Posted August 22, 2016 Pics cont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Tutor Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I hate to say it, but these are all Leaverites. When people ask what that is, I tell them simply to ''leaverite where you found em'' You won't be finding Dinosaur bones in this creek. Only Marine fossils or more recent mammal bones..like the ones you found. Keep looking, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildchild33 Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 I had given up on this forum but felt the need to reply to this. I did not say anything about dinosaurs and you mentioned in another post that nothing could be found in this creek and that only reflects your observation skills. I have found bison bones & teeth, a lovely crinoid stem, a nice shark vert and beat up tooth, a Pachyrhizodus jaw, alligator tail vert, and an archaic arrowhead. Might be nothing to some people but not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 32 minutes ago, wildchild33 said: I had given up on this forum Please do not do that! We try Our best to be friendly and helpful and it hurts when someone gives up on Us. 32 minutes ago, wildchild33 said: Might be nothing to some people but not me. So keep on looking and finding and posting here, please!! Regards and good luck! Tony PS Some of the rocks in the last set of pictures look like nice agates. Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNF Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 If you weren't in texas I would consider this piece for english flint. It's certainly chert at the least, and could be cultural. Does anyone here know Texas cherts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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