Seguidora-de-Isis Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Good morning to everyone!Sorry my poor English ... Please like to hear from you. This Oviraptor Egg Fossil is real? Thanks to everyone who can help me. Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynot Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) Welcome to TFF! Do You know where it came from? It looks good to Me, but We should wait for other opinions. Tony Edited August 30, 2016 by ynot add question. 1 Darwin said: " Man sprang from monkeys." Will Rogers said: " Some of them didn't spring far enough." My Fossil collection - My Mineral collection My favorite thread on TFF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan from PA Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 I'm not an egg expert, but it does have a textured shell and looks real to me as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Welcome to the forum. The egg looks very real however although commonly called oviraptor eggs there is no conclusive way to determine it comes from that type of dinosaur. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordTrilobite Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Looks like the real deal. And like Troodon said there's no conclusive way to determine the species. But nests with Oviraptors on top of them have been found. The morphology is consistent so it's more likely than not that it's Oviraptor. But it might be more correct just to call it a Theropod egg. 1 Olof Moleman AKA Lord Trilobite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonsDoc Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 Looks good but need better pictures of the texture of the shell to be sure! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthur Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 (edited) I personally have very little faith in all eggs on the market because they can be faked so well. additionally the wide variety in the quality of fakes and the fact that the market was swamped with fakes makes it difficult to develop a reliable frame of reference regarding what is real and what is fake. I've read that even those with considerable experience handling unquestionably real eggs prefer to see x-rays before concluding as to the authenticity of unknown eggs. Additionally eggs from Mongolia/China are illegal unless they were exported pre-embargo but that is difficult to prove. so my recommendation to you is to avoid them aha With that all said from my experience the egg does appear genuine. Edited August 30, 2016 by arthur spelling error 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Andy- Posted August 30, 2016 Share Posted August 30, 2016 It looks real to me, both in terms of size, morphology and surface texture. That said, some of the eggshell pieces could be composited from unrelated pieces, but it's no biggie really. 1 Looking forward to meeting my fellow Singaporean collectors! Do PM me if you are a Singaporean, or an overseas fossil-collector coming here for a holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 13 hours ago, -Andy- said: It looks real to me, both in terms of size, morphology and surface texture. That said, some of the eggshell pieces could be composited from unrelated pieces, but it's no biggie really. For me also looks like it was made with different shells, realize that there are brown and black bark. Thank you for your opinion! Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 13 hours ago, arthur said: I personally have very little faith in all eggs on the market because they can be faked so well. additionally the wide variety in the quality of fakes and the fact that the market was swamped with fakes makes it difficult to develop a reliable frame of reference regarding what is real and what is fake. I've read that even those with considerable experience handling unquestionably real eggs prefer to see x-rays before concluding as to the authenticity of unknown eggs. Additionally eggs from Mongolia/China are illegal unless they were exported pre-embargo but that is difficult to prove. so my recommendation to you is to avoid them aha With that all said from my experience the egg does appear genuine. For me also it seems genuine, but no X-ray is difficult to be sure ... Thank you for your opinion! Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 14 hours ago, LordTrilobite said: Looks like the real deal. And like Troodon said there's no conclusive way to determine the species. But nests with Oviraptors on top of them have been found. The morphology is consistent so it's more likely than not that it's Oviraptor. But it might be more correct just to call it a Theropod egg. I also think it is a Theropod egg. If it is real, of course! Thank you for your opinion. Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 14 hours ago, HamptonsDoc said: Looks good but need better pictures of the texture of the shell to be sure! I will provide more pictures. Thank you for your help! Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 Please help me... If that egg is true, approximately how much it costs in dollars currently in the world of fossil collections? Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Just now, SEGUIDORA-DE-ISIS said: Please help me... If that egg is true, approximately how much it costs in dollars currently in the world of fossil collections? Valuations or appraisals are not published on The Fossil Forum. The human mind has the ability to believe anything is true. - JJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted August 31, 2016 Author Share Posted August 31, 2016 On 30/08/2016 at 2:41 AM, ynot said: Welcome to TFF! Do You know where it came from? It looks good to Me, but We should wait for other opinions. Tony Hello my friend Tony. Good Morning! The seller told me he came from New Mexico petrified forest, but I doubt it! I think it came from Kaoguo Formation, Xixia Basin, Henan Province, China, Late Cretaceous Age! Hugs! Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 5 hours ago, SEGUIDORA-DE-ISIS said: Hello my friend Tony. Good Morning! The seller told me he came from New Mexico petrified forest, but I doubt it! I think it came from Kaoguo Formation, Xixia Basin, Henan Province, China, Late Cretaceous Age! Hugs! I agree with you it's not from New Mexico most likely China but there are several localities that produce theropod eggs like Nanxiong Formation, Guangdong Province. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 But someone can explain how some shells are brown and the other black? Hugs and thanks to all who help. Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonsDoc Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 hour ago, SEGUIDORA-DE-ISIS said: But someone can explain how some shells are brown and the other black? Hugs and thanks to all who help. This is something I never understood but I have seen this from eggs of this type prepared by a friend of mine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 2 minutes ago, HamptonsDoc said: This is something I never understood but I have seen this from eggs of this type prepared by a friend of mine. Nice! :-) I did not know that! Too bad it's a mystery! :-( Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamptonsDoc Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 4 minutes ago, SEGUIDORA-DE-ISIS said: Nice! :-) I did not know that! Too bad it's a mystery! :-( I would be interested in seeing what some of the members who know more about geology than me have to say about the different coloration of the shell. When first seeing it one would think that it is a mosaic of shell from other eggs glued together but per my preparer friend, that is not always the case. Did you decide to purchase this egg? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 1 hour ago, HamptonsDoc said: I would be interested in seeing what some of the members who know more about geology than me have to say about the different coloration of the shell. When first seeing it one would think that it is a mosaic of shell from other eggs glued together but per my preparer friend, that is not always the case. Did you decide to purchase this egg? This is truth ... In a brief analysis seems to be a mosaic composed of various egg-shells. But if this is true, is mounting more well done that I've seen in all my life. I do not know if I'll buy yet. The problem is that it is a rather dubious fossil and without origin. Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Andy- Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 My educated guess is that it's a combination of prep methods used, and the area the eggs were preserved which creates different coloration for these Oviraptor eggs. You get meg teeth of many colors as well. 1 Looking forward to meeting my fellow Singaporean collectors! Do PM me if you are a Singaporean, or an overseas fossil-collector coming here for a holiday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 The different shading from dark to light is part of the fossilization process caused by what mineral was in contact with the egg. The only explanation, that makes sense to me, when you see a black mosaic shell surrounded by grey is that piece was placed there from loose eggshell material. Those loose pieces could be either from that egg or others. That does not make the egg fake or fabricated it's just poorly repaired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seguidora-de-Isis Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) Egg prepared by Lowell Carhart expert! Note that many naturally present eggs are shells of different colors. So we can prove that this happened during the fossilization process , with the addition of various minerals can get these jewels of highly collectible nature. Much joy! Thank you for all of you who helped me! Size: 6.88 inch Age: 70 million years (Late Cretaceous) Location: Nanxiong, Guangdong Province, China Edited September 5, 2016 by SEGUIDORA-DE-ISIS 1 Is It real, or it's not real, that's the question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troodon Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Translated by Google: Egg prepared by Ana an expert! Note that many naturally present eggs are shells of different colors. So we can prove that this happened during the fossilization process , with the addition of various minerals can get these jewels of highly collectible nature. Much joy! Thank you for all of you who helped me ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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