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I found this 4 cm long tooth on a beach in Brouwersdam "near" Rotterdam (North sea).

After some research i think it could be a bison tooth (Bison priscus (?)) ...

Hope somebody can help ... thanks :)

 

 

 

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Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils :)

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20 hours ago, Strepsodus said:

Hi.  I think it's probably a modern cow tooth.

 

Daniel

Hi and thanks for your help !

 

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I don't see the presence of the stylid characteristic for bovid, or the pictures don't reveal that. If the stylid is not present, I think it could be a camelid molar 3.

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What do you call a stylid ?:)

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Thanks abyssunder.

I also don't see any stylid on that tooth.

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8 hours ago, abyssunder said:

I don't see the presence of the stylid characteristic for bovid, or the pictures don't reveal that. If the stylid is not present, I think it could be a camelid molar 3.

Thanks very much for your help! 

I see what you mean and i think you are right :)

Do you have an pictures of a camelid tooth ? 

 

6 hours ago, fifbrindacier said:

Thanks abyssunder.

I also don't see any stylid on that tooth.

Thanks for your involvement and your interest :dinothumb:

Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils :)

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Here is one, Palaeolama mirifica, from Harry's collection :

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Thanks for the picture abyssunder !

 

7 hours ago, Kosmoceras said:

I'm not aware of camelid fossils coming from the North Sea.

Thanks for your help ! ...

 

5 hours ago, Harry Pristis said:

Well, If we've eliminated cow/bison and camelid, how about another bovid like goat or sheep?

 

So you think its modern ? 

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16 minutes ago, belemniten said:

Thanks for the picture abyssunder !

Thanks for your help ! ...

So you think its modern ? 

I hope you found my images helpful. 

I think that it's not possible to say the age of a beach find in Northern Germany without knowing the species.  The size is right for sheep/goat, but I don't have enough information to exclude several fossil bovids or even a giraffid.  The probability is, in my estimation, that this is a modern tooth.

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5 minutes ago, Harry Pristis said:

I hope you found my images helpful. 

I think that it's not possible to say the age of a beach find in Northern Germany without knowing the species.  The size is right for sheep/goat, but I don't have enough information to exclude several fossil bovids or even a giraffid.  The probability is, in my estimation, that this is a modern tooth.

Yes i see your images before and they are great :D 

I think you are right but cant help you with informations ... (only that the beach is in the netherlands :) )

I am sure you are the best contact person concerning mammal fossils ... 

 

Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils :)

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The resemblance is good ! Thank you, Harry. :)

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9 hours ago, Harry Pristis said:

The more I look at it, the more it resembles a sheep/goat m3.  Here's a goat tooth:

 

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Thanks Harry ! Abyssunder is right the resemblance is good :)

I hope its not annoying that i ask another time ... Is it modern or fossil or is it "impossible" to say ?

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Sebastian . . .

I don't know the history of sheep/goats in the Pleistocene of the North Sea region.  You can research that as easily as I could.  The probability is that it is Recent, but that guess is not dispositive.

http://pristis.wix.com/the-demijohn-page

 

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3 hours ago, Harry Pristis said:

Sebastian . . .

I don't know the history of sheep/goats in the Pleistocene of the North Sea region.  You can research that as easily as I could.  The probability is that it is Recent, but that guess is not dispositive.

Thanks again ! I will research it ... lets see what i found :)

 

 

Many greetings from Germany ! Have a great time with many fossils :)

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