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Here is another example of a fake egg that has been showing up over the last few weeks from the same seller from Malaysia, but now has the shipping location changed to Cincinnati. I report these sellers weekly for various things and nothing seems to stop them other than educating as many people as we can. 

 

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BadlandTraveller

@HamptonsDoc the image you posted, is it completely fake or are there egg shells on the top to make it look like a whole authentic egg? 

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HamptonsDoc
4 hours ago, BadlandTraveller said:

@HamptonsDoc the image you posted, is it completely fake or are there egg shells on the top to make it look like a whole authentic egg? 

May be some real shell glued on but it's difficult to say without seeing the egg in person. 

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-Andy-
8 hours ago, BadlandTraveller said:

@HamptonsDoc the image you posted, is it completely fake or are there egg shells on the top to make it look like a whole authentic egg? 

 

It does look like there's real eggshells on part of the egg. It also explains why different parts of the surface looks different.

 

I once bought a hadrosaur egg with different surfaces as well. As it turns out, it was made up of a multiple eggs composited together poorly, with lots of polishing and what was likely filler.

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fossiling
On 16 October, 2016 at 5:00 PM, fossiling said:

very interesting thread. Our school has some fossil dino eggs for display, now I'm thinking they're fake.

Spotted some cement (?!) in the egg. Whoever it was did a bad bad job.

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HamptonsDoc

Here are two links to some other great guides for anyone who may stumble onto this thread in the future:

 

 

 

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HamptonsDoc

Our favorite Malaysian seller of counterfiet hadrosaur eggs is now selling very convincing Oviraptor and Segnosaurus eggs. The egg shell has texture and even pores that look very similar to as they should, but on closer look they are just not right. The color is good but the texture is off. Originally when I saw one of these for sale a few weeks ago I thought maybe it's just a crude prep job, but now that almost identical eggs are being posted week after week, I can see that these are man made.  Most of these eggs are of poor quality, perhaps to fetch a lower selling price and an uneducated impulse buyer.  Please beware of any eggs being sold from China or Malaysia! This group of sellers also has an account out of Cinncinati Ohio where they sell these fabricated eggs. 

 

The red represents matrix, the grey represents cast under missing shell, the black represents shell.  Some of the eggs listed are also partials which ask for less money. 

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Very convincing Segnosaurus egg

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HamptonsDoc

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The biggest red flag on these is who is selling them. I would love to buy one to examine it in person but I already wasted enough money on this seller when I was fooled by his hadrosaur eggs a few years ago. 

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HamptonsDoc

Here are two examples of an authentic unprepped and prepped oviraptor egg. Note the subtle differences in the texture of the shell. 

 

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HamptonsDoc

The same seller of the majority of man made Dino eggs on our favorite auction site has continued to sell eggs without any repercussions. He's now offering a new and improved model of oviraptor eggs that come as singles, double and triples.  Yesterday I stumbled across a genius way that one person has tried to combat this guy. 

 

One dealer has has made a listing with pictures of many of the various egg samples that I have in this thread and some of the newer models with a listing price of $10,000,000 to gain interest on the listing.  The title of the listing is in the style of the original listing for the eggs with random words thrown in to grab more searches such as "tooth."  The description talks about the deceit of this one seller in hopes to save other from the financial misfortune that so many of us sustained from this Malaysian fabricator.  He lists these eggs as "Made of 20% authentic materials, 10% deceit, 10% glass, 60% fraud."  He goes on to urge everyone to return the eggs if purchased within the 30 day window but warns of the expensive price to ship back to Malaysia. 

 

Bravo to this auction regular! I sent him an email on the site thanking him for what he did. His listing is worth checking out!

 

 

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HamptonsDoc

Here are some of the newer examples of fake eggs from Malaysia. 

 

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RJB

This is one very interesting thread!

 

RB

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Dinomaniac

The same Malaysian seller now also has theriznosaur eggs but he deleted them :D

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aeon.rocks
On 10/14/2017 at 3:24 PM, HamptonsDoc said:

Here are some of the newer examples of fake eggs from Malaysia. 

 

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Here are some new eggs popping up on our "favourite auction site" from that same dealer. These almost convinced me to be authentic, if I had to make a quick quess: real, since I`m not sure if it`s possible to fake oviraptor eggs like this? So I`m inclined to believe that these are real oviraptor eggs, everything looks good on photo; except maybe a subtile difference in texture to a real oviraptor egg, but minimal, hard to say. I would like to hear your thoughts? Real? Fake? Has anyone recently purchased these here and has had a chance to inspect in hand?

 

 

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aeon.rocks

It`s messed up that fakes are getting really good or this is real unpreped material? I don`t know... Looks good, but without feeling this in hand... Few more close ups (and last photo inverted):

 

 

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RJB

Being that the fakes are getting to look so real, im glad im  not into dino eggs!!!

 

RB

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aeon.rocks
11 minutes ago, RJB said:

Being that the fakes are getting to look so real, im glad im  not into dino eggs!!!

 

RB

 

If you ask me, the fakes that came out a few years ago already look too good... These... I`m not sure, these might be real, looks ok on photos; but want to hear what experts have to say or perhaps somebody that has had a chance to inspect or prep one of these in person?

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killer2906

I bought one of the eggs, on the last pictures,

Well, they look real to me.

When I get the egg, I'll upload some photos.

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-Andy-
On 11/13/2017 at 9:02 PM, aeon.rocks said:

It`s messed up that fakes are getting really good or this is real unpreped material? I don`t know... Looks good, but without feeling this in hand... Few more close ups (and last photo inverted):

 

I believe these are real eggs.

 

My stance is still this: the majority of this seller's eggs are fake, but there are some authentic ones like these oviraptorid eggs.

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Troodon

The eggs look real but I find that it's hard to believe a tiger can change its stripes, maybe we have a first. He is still selling fake eggs.  Hopefully we get a report from killer2906 to see what he finds.  I would be very cautious until we get some feedback.

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HamptonsDoc

Knowing how many fake eggs this guy has sold over the past few years, I personally could never buy anything from him without always questioning its authenticity regardless of how many times it has been examined by people who know what they're talking about.  I would not want any fossil, pseudo-fossil or franken-fossil that came from this seller in my own collection.  Even with HD video footage of the actually dinosaur laying these eggs I would still be weary!

 

Sure, people could change their ways or maybe he is supplementing his legitimate fossil dealings with fakes when inventory is low. To me, however, this guy has burnt enough people that I would never be able to support his business with a clear conscious.

 

I'm curious to hear Killer's opinion of the egg he purchased when it arrives and it is able to be examined in person!

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aeon.rocks

I hope Killer2906 has equipment to prep that egg. Would be nice to see the result when cleaned.

 

As mentioned, I think these eggs are real, can't imagine how they could make so good fakes... But, with 3D printing and technology nowadays hard to be sure... Unless they got a new way to get them out of China/Mongolia or an old stash...

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Troodon
16 hours ago, HamptonsDoc said:

Knowing how many fake eggs this guy has sold over the past few years, I personally could never buy anything from him without always questioning its authenticity regardless of how many times it has been examined by people who know what they're talking about.  I would not want any fossil, pseudo-fossil or franken-fossil that came from this seller in my own collection.  Even with HD video footage of the actually dinosaur laying these eggs I would still be weary!

 

Sure, people could change their ways or maybe he is supplementing his legitimate fossil dealings with fakes when inventory is low. To me, however, this guy has burnt enough people that I would never be able to support his business with a clear conscious.

I agree with you 100%.  I find myself in the same shoes with a couple of dealers who's practices have been questionable and although they may have cool material for sale I just will have nothing to do with them.  They lost my trust which is essential in this business.

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