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NE Oklahoma Large Mammal fossil ID


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I recently found a large phalanx bone in NE Oklahoma in the Arkansas River. I think it's from a Bison but I'm not sure because it is much bigger than the ones I have seen. It is roughly 3.5 inches long. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

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Hello, and welcome to :tff::D

 

I agree with @fifbrindacier, it definitely looks like a phalanx from a horse.

The photos here are from a horse phalanx from the North Sea in my collection. You can see the similarity.

 

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Max

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Some more photos

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And more :P

 

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The last one:

 

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Equus phalanx I, I agree wiht the others. Nice find! :)

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Thanks everyone for the help! I didn't even think it could be a horse. Here are some of the teeth Infounf as well. They have great color. I'm pretty sure these are Bison.

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Could you take photos of both ends of them ? It is important because you can find here tiny details indispensables for a good identification.

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I'm happy I could help!

 

And great teeth too! In my opinion, the bigger one looks like bison indeed (though I'm not sure). But the second one kinda makes me think of deer...

 

Let's wait for the others to give their thoughts;)

 

Best regards,

 

Max

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Thanks for your feedback. I was thinking both are Bison teeth because of the isolated stylid in the middle of the tooth (you can see it in the first picture of the group of three pictures). I'm no expert so i could be wrong.

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I found another bone that I am trying to ID. I know it's a cannon bone but not sure what to.  It is about 9 inches long and 2.25 inches thick at the thickest part. There are some interesting looking scratch marks you can see in the second picture. Could those be from an animal or do you think it is normal wear and tear? I found another cannon which is the third picture, I think it is a Bison from the size and thickness, 8 inches long and 2.75 inches wide. Once again, any help/ideas are very appreciated.

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The teeth in question are probably from bison, according to their large dimensions.  Bison teeth are more robust than bos/cow teeth. Camelids don't have isolated stylyds on their teeth.
The bones in the last pictures looks to be metatarsals and/or metacarpals of bos or bison.

 

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excerpt from Atlas of Animal Bones. For Prehistorians, Archaeologists and Quaternary Geologists - Elisabeth Schmid; Elsevier, New York, 1972.

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I think they are both bison teeth, not all the teeth have the same shape and size on a jaw (look at our own incisives canines and molars).

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Sorry I was wrong about the teeth:P

 

And about the first cannon bone, I have the feeling the scratches have just occurred during the fossilization process. Of course, I might be wrong again...

 

Anyways once again amazing finds,

 

Best regards,

 

Max

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"I feel an echo of the lightning each time I find a fossil. [...] That is why I am a hunter: to feel that bolt of lightning every day."

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First of all end views of the proximal articulation of the bones are necessary.

For the second bone I would say - Bison.

 

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The first one doesn't look like a camelid metapodial, to me.

 

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                                                                                                 Second picture - various views of the camel's metacarpus  More information Here

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Isabel Cartajena et al. 2010. New camelid (Artiodactyla: Camelidae) record from the late Pleistocene of Calama (Second Region, Chile): a morphological and morphometric discussion. Revista Mexicana de Ciencias Geológicas, v. 27, núm. 2, p. 197-212.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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