Horse Tooth? Fossil or Recent?

[garren]

I recently went on my third trip to hunt sharks teeth. I came up with quite a few pieces and another ptychodus... Plus an 1892 V nickel. On all three trips to this creek I have seen recent bone and modern cow teeth. I'm guessing the large tooth in the second pic is horse? Normally I can tell a recent tooth but I'm not sure about this one. Is there a test or way to tell if its fossilized? I'm leaning towards recent but wanted to be sure before I chunked it.

 

[Harry Pristis]

One clue to age is mineralization of the cementum exterior of the tooth; but, even that is not dispositive.  The tooth appears to be from an equus and is a lower m1 or m2, I think.

[bone2stone]

Garren, you have reason to doubt the horse in that Post Oak produces some modern material from time to time. Me thinks that is not the case here, Harry is spot on.

Although modern material can be found there, not much horse. Upstream was an old

short term dump site. Gone now but it produced many bovine and swine teeth and partial bones.

My strangest tooth was adolesent human cusped.

I once found a 14K mans wedding ring.

But no coins! Did you find the V 5c in the creek?

I'll show you some areas closer to home when the weather is more pleasant.

Bone2stone

[garren]

12 minutes ago, bone2stone said:

Garren, you have reason to doubt the horse in that Post Oak produces some modern material from time to time. Me thinks that is not the case here, Harry is spot on.

Although modern material can be found there, not much horse. Upstream was an old

short term dump site. Gone now but it produced many bovine and swine teeth and partial bones.

My strangest tooth was adolesent human cusped.

I once found a 14K mans wedding ring.

But no coins! Did you find the V 5c in the creek?

I'll show you some areas closer to home when the weather is more pleasant.

Bone2stone

 

Yes, the nickel was found in a depression in the hard rock creek bottom. I walked from the tractor dealer up stream to the Center St. Bridge and did not come across the dump. Did I not go far enough?

When I noticed all of the glass I was kind of interested to see where it was coming from.

 

So far, we're thinking the horse tooth is fossilized? Does my cementum looks mineralized? Sorry I'm new to this whole fossil biz.

 

 

[bone2stone]

You won't see the dump. It is long gone washed away many years ago.

Up stream beyond the Hwy 69 Bridge.

Turn of century site.

Very few intact bottles found by me personally.

Found a Hutch bottle there back on the 80's.

 

BTW the last time I was there, there was a crowd of people and one guy (not a member) found a portion of Mammoth femur down stream from parking, drop in spot.(Center st bridge)

One group there came all the way from outside Witchita Falls.

Lots of wonderful stuff found there I can tell you that.

I took a friend and on his first trip found a huge plesiosaurus vert.

Me I was looking for small and walked right by it underwater.

Nice find on the 5c.

[garren]

6 minutes ago, bone2stone said:

You won't see the dump. It is long gone washed away many years ago.

Up stream beyond the Hwy 69 Bridge.

Turn of century site.

Very few intact bottles found by me personally.

Found a Hutch bottle there back on the 80's.

 

BTW the last time I was there, there was a crowd of people and one guy (not a member) found a portion of Mammoth femur down stream from parking, drop in spot.(Center st bridge)

One group there came all the way from outside Witchita Falls.

Lots of wonderful stuff found there I can tell you that.

I took a friend and on his first trip found a huge plesiosaurus vert.

Me I was looking for small and walked right by it underwater.

Nice find on the 5c.

 

Thanks...Its a fun place fore sure! Just a long drive. Also, thanks for the offer to show me a place closer to home. I may not become a hardcore fossil hunter but its nice to fall back on when you need a break from detecting! Definitely want to learn all I kind about it too.

 

I love those hutch bottles!

[tmaier]

If the coin has Fred Flintstone on the obverse side, then it might be early Pleistocene. Those are rare.

[garren]

7 hours ago, tmaier said:

If the coin has Fred Flintstone on the obverse side, then it might be early Pleistocene. Those are rare.
 

 

Now you tell me? After I spent it at the Walmart!